SCA-BPEL TC Call Oct. 16 2008 - Unformatted Minutes

[Dieter Koenig1 <dieterkoenig@de.ibm.com>]

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Meeting ID: 877770
Meeting password: SCABPEL (7222735)
Dieter Koenig: Agenda:
1. Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php

2. Appointment of scribe
Scribe list attached below

3. Agenda bashing

4. Approval of Sep 25, 2008 minutes
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200810/msg00002.html

5. Approval of Oct 9, 2008 minutes
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200810/msg00013.html

6. Action items review
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/action_items.php

a) AI #0021
Sanjay to follow up with Mary to post the CD docs to OASIS repository

b) AI #0047
Anish to communicate to the Assembly TC to consider including examples
of using interface.partnerLinkType in the Assembly specification.

c) AI #0048
Anish to propose a new issue for mapping interface.wsdl to interface.partnerLinkType.

7. LOA requests

8. New Issues
a) http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200810/msg00014.html

9. Issue Discussion
a) Issue 18 - http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-18
TITLE- Need to rewrite the SCA-BPEL specifications with RFC-2119
keywords/statements
Latest proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200810/msg00009.html

b) Issue 12 - http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-12
TITLE  Long-Running Request-Response Operations


10. AOB
Dieter Koenig: Scribe: Dieter
Dieter Koenig: Topic 3: Agenda bashing
Dieter Koenig: Agenda approved
Dieter Koenig: Topic 4: Approval of Sep 25,
2008 minutes
Dieter Koenig: Sep 25, 2008 minutes approved
Dieter Koenig: Topic 5: Approval of Oct 9,
2008 minutes
Dieter Koenig: Oct 9, 2008 minutes approved
Dieter Koenig: Topic 6: Action items
Dieter Koenig: a) AI 0021 - Sanjay
Dieter Koenig: Sanjay to follow up with Mary
again - may just result in a resubmission of the files
Dieter Koenig: b) AI 0047 - Anish
Dieter Koenig: Done
Dieter Koenig: c) AI 0048 - Anish
Dieter Koenig: Done
Dieter Koenig: Topic 7: LOA requests
Dieter Koenig: Ashok will go on LOA starting
today
Dieter Koenig: Topic 8: New issues
anish: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200810/msg00014.html
Dieter Koenig: (still Topic 7) Kanderao will
also go on LOA starting next week
Dieter Koenig: (Topic 8 continued)
Dieter Koenig: Anish explains the new issue
(see link above)
Dieter Koenig: Motion to open the issue (m:
Mike E., s: Dieter) - accepted without objection
Dieter Koenig: Topic 9: Issue discussion
Dieter Koenig: Issue 18 - proposal provided
my Mike R.
anish: email from anish: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200810/msg00016.html
Dieter Koenig: Mike R. explains his proposal
Dieter Koenig: (see word doc attached to mail
linked above, section 2.1.1)
anish lowered your hand
anish lowered your hand
Dieter Koenig: The discussion brought up a
new issue about additional constraints needed for enforcing the integrity
between sca-bpel:service and sca-bpel:reference attributes on one hand
and sca-bpel:multiRefFrom or bpel:initializePartnerRole attributes on the
other hand
Dieter Koenig: Mike E. summarizes the discussion
at the SCA-Assembly TC about issue http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/ASSEMBLY-36
Dieter Koenig: SCA-Assembly TC discussion of
issue Assembly-36:
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Issue 36: Compatibility of Component Type side files
<Mike Edwards>
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-assembly/200809/msg00057.html
<Dave Booz>
for the record, here's what the assembly spec says now (cd01 rev1) on this:
<Dave Booz>
172 The component type is calculated in two steps where the second step
adds to the information
173 found in the first step. Step one is introspecting the implementation
(if possible), including the
174 inspection of implementation annotations (if available). Step two covers
the cases where
175 introspection of the implementation is not possible or where it does
not provide complete
176 information and it involves looking for an SCA component type file.
Component type
177 information found in the component type file must be compatible with
the equivalent information
178 found from inspection of the implementation. The component type file
can specify partial179 information, with the remainder being derived from
the implementation.
<Simon Nash>
are we taking people from the queue or should people just jump in when
they want to say something?
<Dave Booz>
Mike E is trying to get you in
<anish>
Each C&I specifies (1) if a CT side file(s) is allowed (2) if introspection
is allowed, (3) name and location of side files(s) (4) compatibility between
introspected CT and side file(s), (5) how the effective CT of an implementation
is derived. SCA Assembly only cares about the effective CT.
<anish>
Each implementation has an (effective) CT, specified by sca:ComponentType,
how that is arrived at depends on the implementation type.
Resolution: m:Vorthmann s:Aupperle accept Anish's text above as a direction
for the resolution to Assembly-36
<Mike Edwards>
13:30 - 13:45 Issue 82: Relax schema to allow anywhere
Action: Karmaker to develop concrete text consistent with the directional
resolution to Assembly-36 
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Dieter Koenig: (back to SCA-BPEL-18 - usage
of term "introspected component type")
Dieter Koenig: Mike E: if there is no side
file then the effective component type is the introspected component type
Dieter Koenig: Danny: this proposal is dependent
on the definition of "introspected component type"
Dieter Koenig: Danny: Motion to adopt the proposed
text from Mike R. as amended by Anish as the model for the complete spec
(m: Danny, s: Mike R.)
Dieter Koenig: Motion includes accepting the
proposal as actual spec text for section 2.1.1
Dieter Koenig: Mike R.: SCA-BPEL should use
"component type" instead of "introspected component type"
Dieter Koenig: (no amendment here - motion
stays as is)
Dieter Koenig: Motion accepted without objection
Dieter Koenig: Editors should now take this
direction for the rest of the sepc
Dieter Koenig: New AI for Mike R. - talk to
editors
Dieter Koenig: Mike E. mentions the SCA-Assembly
approach of labeling conformance points in the spec
Mike Edwards: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-assembly/download.php/29678/sca-assembly-1.1-spec-cd01-rev2.pdf
Dieter Koenig: Topic 10: AOB
Dieter Koenig: no AOB
Dieter Koenig: meeting adjourned
anish thx for scribing dieter
Dieter Koenig: yw

Kind Regards

Dieter König

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WebSphere Process Server Architect
IBM Software Group, Application
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