Re: [sca-bpel] Getting ready for PRD

[Anish Karmarkar <Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com>]

 > I'm actually not too worried about this - more just wanted to be
 > clear.
 > I predict that we won't have much discussion of what's old and what's
 > new, what's worth opening, and what's not.

That is my hope too.

-Anish
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Danny van der Rijn wrote:
> While I agree with Martin's line of reasoning, I agree with Anish's line 
> of pragmatism.  We could get ourselves into more process issues by 
> discussing whether a PR comment is new or not [and vote on it??  By what 
> margin :-) ]
> 
> I'm actually not too worried about this - more just wanted to be clear.  
> I predict that we won't have much discussion of what's old and what's 
> new, what's worth opening, and what's not.  Just extrapolating on the 
> differences between the BPEL committee and this, um, SBPEL, committee.
> 
> Anish Karmarkar wrote:
>>
>> I would agree that we should have a higher bar for reopening an old
>> issue, but not for opening a new issue. The problem I see in
>> implementing this is that it requires the TC to decide whether an issue
>> is the same as the one that is already closed. This isn't always
>> black/white. This means majority can "reopen" an old issue by filing a
>> new issue and claim that it is different (ever so slightly from the old
>> one).
>>
>> For simplicity, it seems to me that we should just scrap the 2/3rd rule
>> once we go PR. I would hope that the majority would need lot of
>> additional new convincing information to reopen an issue.
>>
>> Comments?
>>
>> -Anish
>> --
>>
>> Martin Chapman wrote:
>> > Anish,
>> >
>> > I'd be happy with not requiring 2/3 to open an issue, but I think we 
>> should still keep the 2/3 for re-opening a closed or deferred
>> > issue, which will include pre-PR comments.
>> >
>> > Martin.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Anish Karmarkar [mailto:Anish.Karmarkar@oracle.com]
>> >> Sent: 02 March 2009 19:57
>> >> To: Danny van der Rijn
>> >> Cc: OASIS BPEL
>> >> Subject: Re: [sca-bpel] Getting ready for PRD
>> >>
>> >> Danny van der Rijn wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Anish Karmarkar wrote:
>> >>>> Few things we need to agree on for PRD:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 2) Duration of the public review: OASIS process requires the 1st 
>> PR to
>> >>>> be minimum of 60 days. I would like to suggest that we stick with the
>> >>>> minimum.
>> >>>>
>> >>> +1.  (60, not 61 ^_^)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 4) How to deal with issues raised during the PR period either by TC
>> >>>> members or non-TC members?
>> >>>> Per the process, the TC must acknowledge the receipt of each comment,
>> >>>> track the comments received, and publish to its primary e-mail 
>> list the
>> >>>> disposition of each comment at the end of the review period.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I would like to suggest that we follow SCA Policy TC's lead. 
>> Which is to
>> >>>>   create a new component/subcomponent in JIRA for PR comments. 
>> All new
>> >>>> issues raised, after we agree on the PRD, either by non-members or
>> >>>> members (on the TC list or the PR feedback list) be logged as new 
>> issues
>> >>>> in the new component/subcomponent.
>> >>>>
>> >>> With what bar for opening the issue?  Still 2/3?
>> >>>
>> >> We had discussed this when we created the 2/3rd majority standing rule
>> >> and the general sense of the TC was that the 2/3rd majority rule ends
>> >> with PR. The rationale for that was: PR allows a non-member to send any
>> >> comment they want. It would not make sense to have a higher bar for
>> >> members. So no 2/3rd rule once we go PR, is what I'm proposing. But we
>> >> should discuss this during the call reaffirm this (or not).
>> >>
>> >> -Anish
>> >> --
>> >>
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