RE: . Re: The real SOA challenge?)

(Resending.. had a mail-list problem last week)

In the present state of SOA, I see some parallels to how J2EE evolved. Piror to J2EE spec, there were a whole lot of individual specs that were getting localized micro domain traction. But, it is the J2EE specification that brought the nearly 20 odd specifications together into one coherent platform. That was easy to understand and relate to. Clear for vendors to build, and users to use. Part of the reason why it became as popular as it did.

My view that we could very significantly benefit from such an initiative for SOA as well. Even if not a tightly defined platform such as J2EE, will help to at least put all initiatives and standards in a bigger perspective.

Instead of just having this as a committee to explain the various SOA related works, we should propose a charter to define a complete platform.

Cheers,

Ramesh

- Technical Director, and Head- Sonic Software Tools Development group

Hyderabad, India

-----Original Message-----

From: Oleg Mikulinsky [mailto:oleg.mikulinsky@weblayers.com]

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 1:10 AM

To: James Bryce Clark; john@maphin.net; soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org; soa-blueprints@lists.oasis-open.org

Subject: [soa-blueprints] RE: [soa-rm] JtC = cross post solution (was) ... Re: The real SOA challenge?

I also like the idea of having a committee that explains SOA related

work and all of the various OASIS WS-* protocol working groups to the

public

This might be a starting point for the proposed TC.

"Introduction to the OASIS SOA Work: The Reference Model and SOA

Blueprints Technical Committees"

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/soa-rm/document.php?documen

t_id=15449

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/soa-rm/download.php/15449/I

ntroduction%20to%20SOA%20OASIS%20work%20-%20QandA%20%20v.04.doc

John,

Please chip in your proposed FAQ as well.

Regards,

Oleg Mikulinsky.

-----Original Message-----

From: Chiusano Joseph [mailto:chiusano_joseph@bah.com]

Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 1:52 PM

To: James Bryce Clark; soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org

Subject: RE: [soa-rm] JtC = cross post solution (was) ... Re: The real

SOA challenge?

[Replying on SOA-RM TC list only]

Let me be the first to say that I think a "service-oriented architecture

joint committee" is an *excellent* idea.

Joe

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> -----Original Message-----

> From: James Bryce Clark [mailto:jamie.clark@oasis-open.org]

> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 1:46 PM

> To: soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org; fwsi@lists.oasis-open.org;

> soa-blueprints@lists.oasis-open.org;

> ebsoa@liasts.oasis-open.org; semantic-ex@lists.oasis-open.org

> Subject: [soa-rm] JtC = cross post solution (was) ... Re: The real SOA

> challenge?

> 1. Reply to Joe and John: I hope so.

> 2. Request to all: This interesting but long thread is going on

> in five e-mail lists. These TCs have much in common, that properly is

> a basis for further chat, but while maintaining the separate and

> independent activities of each TC. I would like to suggest a

> solution. It would take some duplicate traffic off these lists, and

> provide a place for these cross-TC, SOA-oriented coordination

> conversations.

> I suggest that these 5 TCs consider starting a "service

> architecture joint committee." The rules of that OASIS structure can

> be found at http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.php#2.16. It

> does not require any surrender of each committee's own work plan or

> views, but would provide a forum for discussion of possible voluntary

> coordination. I will take this up further with your committee chairs,

> and discuss what kind of charter/outline might work. If the TCs (or

> some subset of

> them) wish to do so, a JtC would create a place where matters of joint

> interest can be more effectively discussed.

> Regards Jamie

> ~ James Bryce Clark

> ~ Director, Standards Development, OASIS

> ~ jamie.clark@oasis-open.org

> At 08:39 AM 11/17/2005, Chiusano Joseph wrote:

> >>From: John Hardin [mailto:john@maphin.net]

> >>Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:29 AM

> >>* * *

> >>We are working these three items into the next generation

> of the OASIS

> >>Technical Architecture.

> >

> >I believe you meant to say "ebXML Technical Architecture"?

> >Joe

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