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Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Negotiation? (was: [soa-rm] Good Recent SOA Piece: "Managing an XML Data Model In Your SOA - Best Practices")
I believe "dynamic composability" may be an overloaded term - in one sense it refers to composite applications (or composite Web Services) that are composed on-the-fly. Not sure if that was what was meant here, or some other meaning.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Joe
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From: Ken Laskey [mailto:klaskey@mitre.org]
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 2:10 PM
To: Smith, Martin; soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Negotiation? (was: [soa-rm] Good Recent SOA Piece: "Managing an XML Data Model In Your SOA - Best Practices")
If I can rephrase, is a decision support capability an intrinsic feature of a SOA that will enable and support dynamic evaluation of options, leading eventually to dynamic composability?
Well, maybe that's putting a few extra words in your mouth but I think it is consistent with what you are laying out.
Am I at least in the same ballpark?
Ken
At 02:00 PM 5/9/2005, Smith, Martin wrote:
Context? We don’ need no steenkin’ context. <g>
Actually, I’ve been thinking that we might want to elevate “negotiation” to a first-class RM concept, for the reasons implied by Frank’s comment. This all comes back to the fact that we’re dealing with organizations and people outside our “local” management domain. We therefore need to take account of the possibility that we speak another language (semantic/syntactic/grammatical diversity), use different technical protocols, and have different policies (security, service levels, contractual). In each case, some process of negotiation and alignment is needed before business can start happening . . .
Martin
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From: Chiusano Joseph [ mailto:chiusano_joseph@bah.com]
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:55 PM
To: Frank McCabe; Sally St. Amand
Cc: John Harby; soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [soa-rm] Good Recent SOA Piece: "Managing an XML Data Model In Your SOA - Best Practices"
<Quote>
Now, who can I beat over the head with this?
</Quote>
I think I am missing the context of this question.
Joe
Joseph Chiusano
Booz Allen Hamilton
Visit us online@ http://www.boozallen.com
From: Frank McCabe [ mailto:frank.mccabe@us.fujitsu.com]
Sent: Mon 5/9/2005 12:53 PM
To: Sally St. Amand
Cc: John Harby; Chiusano Joseph; soa-rm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Good Recent SOA Piece: "Managing an XML Data Model In Your SOA - Best Practices"
I like this quote:
<quote>
The move to SOA is forcing us to confront topics like identity and
semantics, because the boundaries that previously existed between
separate pools of trust and meaning are dissolving. This has far-
reaching consequences for the way we organize and consume computing.
</quote>
Now, who can I beat over the head with this?
Frank
On May 8, 2005, at 6:09 PM, Sally St. Amand wrote:
> Having just read this blog I need to ask if the "identity"
> presentation (made at the F2F) you spoke of on Wed's call related
> to this same point? I was not at the F2F. Did the presenter provide
> a copy of the slides?
>
> John Harby <jharby@gmail.com> wrote: This is an excellent blog
> entry from Phil:
>
> http://www.looselycoupled.com/blog/lc00aa00096.html
>
> On 5/6/05, Chiusano Joseph wrote:
> > Forwarding a good recent SOA piece[1] for those interested in
> reading it.
> > Covers the notion of an integrated data model as a foundational
> concept;
> > also presents a 6-layer approach to SOA (about mid-article).
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > [1] http://www.tdan.com/i032ht02.htm
> >
> >
> >
> > Joseph Chiusano
> >
> > Booz Allen Hamilton
> >
> > Visit us online@ http://www.boozallen.com
> >
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