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Subject: RE: [soa-rm] Future content for Conf calls


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Laskey [mailto:klaskey@mitre.org] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 4:13 PM
> To: Matthew MacKenzie; peter@justbrown.net
> Cc: 'Duane Nickull'; 'SOA-RM'
> Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Future content for Conf calls
> 
> Whoa there, are members of the editing team eligible?  

Only after they've completed their writing. ;)

Kind Regards,
Joseph Chiusano
Booz Allen Hamilton
O: 703-902-6923
C: 202-251-0731
Visit us online@ http://www.boozallen.com
 
> I 
> thought there was an OASIS process rule that expressly...
> 
> Ken
> 
> At 04:03 PM 8/25/2005, Matthew MacKenzie wrote:
> >Since Duane doesn't qualify: +1
> >
> >Bring on the Cristal!
> >
> >Peter F Brown wrote:
> >
> >>I don't think TC chairs qualify for the prize. If you read the full 
> >>terms and conditions of the offer as published (but as yet not 
> >>discovered nor invoked by anyone - in fact, discoverability wasn't 
> >>actually built into the promotion offer service architecture) you 
> >>would have noticed that all office holders of the TC are 
> >>forbidden...blah blah
> >>
> >>Ah what the heck, let's just crack open the bubbly (again) when you 
> >>come over...The good stuff's cheaper over here anyway
> >>
> >>Peter
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com] Sent: 25 
> August 2005 
> >>20:28
> >>To: peter@justbrown.net; SOA-RM
> >>Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Future content for Conf calls
> >>
> >>+1 - champagne is mine!!!
> >>
> >>D
> >>
> >>Peter F Brown wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I'd also suggest:
> >>>
> >>>- pre-meeting offer should be made to scribe (avoids that 
> embarrasing 
> >>>foot-shuffling that you can practically hear on call):
> >>>first offer posted to the list, gets the job; No proposal: 
> last one 
> >>>to offer gets no dessert or has to invite whole TC to 
> dinner at next 
> >>>F2F;
> >>>- tweaks to the minutes: send a mail to the scribe of the meeting 
> >>>concerned, copy to list;
> >>>- on call: minutes of previous meeting(s) deemed approved without 
> >>>discussion or decision unless before end of meeting there is an 
> >>>objection (by mail or point of order); -reports from liaisons and 
> >>>editors in writing to list before meeting (at least the key points)
> >>>- install webcam on Ken's car so that we can be sure he is 
> actually 
> >>>driving and keeping his eyes on the road...
> >>>- a large dose of common sense: it's great to talk to 
> people on call 
> >>>that you haven't seen at all or in a while, and to keep 
> things a bit 
> >>>fun, but bear in mind that time is money (and outside the US and 
> >>>Canada, the call is costing a buck a minute at least - that's 
> >>>equivalent to my individual OASIS member fee in three
> >>>meetings) and that some things really can be dealth with 
> off line...
> >>>- keep the creative flow of the meeting going by allowing overtalk 
> >>>and interrupts where appropriate but also keep to the point: the 
> >>>"threads" on call can be worse than on the list: with the 
> quality of 
> >>>the line sometimes making this all the worse. Duane, you 
> may have to 
> >>>practice being a bit more ruthless while you're on 
> parental leave... 
> >>>;-)
> >>>
> >>>All the best, and a glass of champagne in Vienna to the 
> first on the 
> >>>list to give this a +1 ...
> >>>
> >>>-Peter
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com]
> >>>Sent: 25 August 2005 01:27
> >>>Cc: SOA-RM
> >>>Subject: Re: [soa-rm] Future content for Conf calls
> >>>
> >>>Example:
> >>>
> >>>An unnecessarily long discussion on suggested alternative 
> dates (at 
> >>>least the portion that could be done prior to the meeting).  A 
> >>>discussion over the OASIS rules and procedures etc.
> >>>
> >>>Both of these can probably be best done using the WIKI or 
> list server 
> >>>or at least a substantial portion thereof.
> >>>
> >>>Duane
> >>>
> >>>Chiusano Joseph wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Sounds good to me Duane. For clarification, can you provide an 
> >>>>example of what would be considered administrivia (beyond 
> taking roll call)?
> >>>>
> >>>>Joe
> >>>>
> >>>>Joseph Chiusano
> >>>>Booz Allen Hamilton
> >>>>O: 703-902-6923
> >>>>C: 202-251-0731
> >>>>Visit us online@ http://www.boozallen.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>From: Duane Nickull [mailto:dnickull@adobe.com]
> >>>>>Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 5:16 PM
> >>>>>To: SOA-RM
> >>>>>Subject: [soa-rm] Future content for Conf calls
> >>>>>
> >>>>>TC:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Matt said something that tweaked my thinking a bit today.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I would like to try and keep the use of the conference calls 
> >>>>>largely for technical work and confine administrivia to 
> a minimum.  
> >>>>>Perhaps most of this can be done via the list.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Accordingly, I would look to the editing team and others 
> to suggest 
> >>>>>topics that need to be discussed on the next calls.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>D.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> 
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>    /   Ken 
> Laskey                                                        
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