RE: [tag] Groups - TA Anatomy V0.5 ---- about pre-requisites

["Durand, Jacques R." <JDurand@us.fujitsu.com>]

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This very well answers my particular concerns. Excellent.
Much appreciated.

The notes about outcomes maybe needs a bit of clarification

for example

"-  If the adherence condition associated with a pass outcome is not
satisfied for an IUT (i.e. it evaluates to "false") this does not cause
a fail outcome. Conversely, if the incompatibility condition associated
with a fail outcome is not satisfied (i.e.
it evaluates to "false") this does not cause a pass outcome."

Maybe this would be a little clearer with 'does not necessarily':

<JD> right. I agree that in general, "pass" = not("fail") and
conversely, not("pass") = "fail". But in some cases (at least negative
testing) failing to "fail" does not mean "pass"...  It all depends on
the scope of the test condition. But again, I assume pass/fail have here
a "conformance" semantics.</JD>

"-  If the adherence condition associated with a pass outcome is not
satisfied for an IUT (i.e. it evaluates to "false") this does not
necessarily cause a fail outcome. Conversely, if the incompatibility
condition associated with a fail outcome is not satisfied (i.e. it
evaluates to "false") this does not necessarily cause a pass outcome."

I was looking for the 'more on prerequisites' - is this yet to be added?

<JD> Yes - and I suspect anything we were considering as "pre-condition"
could be folded into a general "pre-requisite", that could either point
to other TAs or state a condition on its own, or both. In other words,
in order for the test case(s) derived from a TA to be executed for an
IUT, the pre-requisites of this TA must be satisfied for this IUT. The
pre-requisite would be used to  "qualify" the IUT for the test - not
part of the test itself.</JD>


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Quoting jdurand@us.fujitsu.com:

> The section draft "Anatomy of a TA" has entirely been remodeled.
> - TA is introduced first in its "structured" version.
> - TA parts are introduce gradually, on the basis of their rationale.
> Special emphasis on the "test outcome".
> - so far, no mention on pre-condition (it seems to blend in "test
trigger"
> at least in examples used.)
> - test effect replaced by "test outcome"
> - no mention of post-condition (yet).
> - the "prose" TA is introduced as a variant of above structure, where 
> unmentioned parts are automatically inferred from a rule, instead of 
> just absent.
>
>  -- Mr Jacques Durand
>
> The document revision named TA Anatomy V0.5 (AnatomyTA-v05.doc) has 
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> AnatomyTA-v04.doc.
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> The section has entirely been remodeled.
> - TA is introduced first in its "structured" version.
> - TA parts are introduce gradually, on the basis of their rationale.
> Special emphasis on the "test outcome".
> - so far, no mention on pre-condition (it seems to blend in "test
trigger"
> at least in examples used.)
> - no mention of post-condition (yet).
> - the "prose" TA is introduced as a variant of above structure, where 
> unmentioned parts are automatically inferred from a rule, instead of 
> just absent.
>
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