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Subject: Re: [xtm-wg] New file uploaded to xtm-wg


Sam Hunting wrote:
> 
> [Daniel writes]
> > > You should not use any fixed prefix followed by a colon. Things
> > > followed by colons should only be namespace prefixes (see XML 1.0
> > > specification)
> 
> That is, the Second Edition. From the Errata: "The "Namespaces in XML"
> Recommendation [NAMESPACES] assigns a meaning to names containing colon
> characters. Therefore authors should not use the colon in XML names
> except for namespace purposes, but XML processors must accept the colon
> as a name character."
> 
> (Oddly, however, the reference to the namespaces spec in the Errata is
> not normative. Wonder how that chimes with the use of "should" above,
> eh?
> 
> [Murray]
> > *not* prefixed. I don't think we really need XML namespaces (and the
> > confusion they engender) that badly. A very unproven idea, IMO.
> 
> I really really really want to avoid any namespace discussion...

Likewise. They are so full of problems (defaulting, scoping, etc.
not to mention the political) that it's a minefield. Unfortunately,
the W3C seems to be staking their future on them.
 
> So my -$0.02 is, I'm of two minds. (1) I agree with Murray that
> namespaces are confusing, but also feel (2) that it might be a good
> thing to stake out, as it were, the real estate. No matter that the
> "xtm" prefix is arbitrary, and the URI is truly important, etc., as
> soon as software is in place that does processing based on the prefix,
> the URI has less meaning.

Sorry, Sam, but your message is arbitrary. :-)

What is it that you think we should _do_? Stake out the territory? In my
DTD I have an "unused default" of 'xtm', which approaches a grubstake
but doesn't actually put up a flag.

[Stake, stake... steak. Now we're talking.]

Murray

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Murray Altheim, SGML/XML Grease Monkey     <mailto:altheim&#64;eng.sun.com>
XML Technology Center
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      The rice leaves in the garden
      Rustle in the autumn wind
      That blows through my reed hut.  -- Minamoto no Tsunenobu

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