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Subject: [xtm-wg] Swindon Minutes Module #2: RDF
Swindon Minutes Module #2: RDF | This is a hunk of the draft minutes of the October 13-15, 2000 | meeting of the XTM Authoring Group in Swindon, England. | Those who were present at the meeting are invited to suggest changes | for the sake of recording the intent of the meeting more accurately. *************************************************************** RDF and W3C "Summit" Meetings There have been three 2-hour teleconferences in which Eric Freese, Steve Newcomb, Michel Biezunski, Eric Miller, Ralph Swick, Dan Connolly and Dan Brickley have participated. The records of what transpired in these teleconferences, such as it is, in the form of a transcript of the internet relay chat (IRC) record is available at http://www.w3.org/2000/10/10-topicmap-rdf. (These records are probably inscrutable to anyone who didn't participate in the conference calls, and, in any event, not all participants in the conference calls had access to IRC.) In any case, the W3C people were very clear and unanimous that they would be pleased to be able to recommend the XTM syntax for the interchange ("serialization") of RDF statements, pending their satisfaction that XTM syntax is up to the task and that it would in no way compromise or restrict the RDF model. At least one W3C participant expressed enthusiasm for the possibility that Topic Maps could ultimately serve as the basis for the W3C's "Semantic Web" initiative. One requirement for any possibility of such an outcome is that W3C-Recommended URIs (i.e., URLs and/or URNs) must be the required syntax for addressing (referencing) all resources, where the notion of "resource" includes everything that might ever be addressed for any XTM-defined purpose. Discussion: The XTM Conceptual Model Subgroup (CMS) has it in mind to show the relationship between the Topic Maps and RDF models. The "essential triple" does appear in both RDF and Topic Maps, viz: The RDF statement: http://www.w3c.org/rdf/... ---[creator]--> "Ora Lassila" (resource) (arc) (resource) ... states that Ora Lassila is the creator of the resource that is available at some URL. In Topic Maps, exactly the same expressive goals might be achieved by uttering an association link that establishes a two-role relationship between two topics. The two roles of the relationship would be (1) "creator" and (2) "thing-created", and the subjects of the two topics would be (1) the resource found at the indicated Web address (the resource itself -- not the Web address, and not the notion expressed by the resource), and (2) Ora Lassila (Ora Lassila himself, not the string "Ora Lassila"). It was also suggested that W3C's adoption of XTM might help to clarify the RDF model by disambiguating the distinctions between (1) names, (2) addresses, (3) resources, and (4) the significance of resources: ... all of which distinctions are carefully defined and preserved throughout the topic maps paradigm. Two other possible mappings between the "RDF triple" notion and the topic maps paradigm were also briefly discussed: (1) One involved regarding the two resources as the occurrences of a topic. While this possibility accounted for the fact that two resources could be involved, topic occurrences are not intended to establish relationships. (2) The other possible mapping of RDF triples into XTM involved the use of facets. The facet construct seems, in fact, to be the single construct in the whole ISO 13250 standard that is most similar to an RDF statement. However, there was little enthusiasm in the AG for the idea of recommending facets as the mapping point between XTM and RDF. RDF is already more powerful than facets, facets are really not essential to topic maps, and nothing that can be accomplished with a facet cannot also be accomplished with topics and associations. Therefore, RDF would not gain the significant benefits of topic maps from being married to XTM in this way, and neither XTM nor the topic maps paradigm in general would benefit from being married to RDF in this way, either. (See also the report of the Syntax Subgroup in these minutes, in which it was decided that the "facet" construct that appears in ISO 13250 should have no counterpart in the XTM Spec.) One possible downside to marrying XTM and RDF was suggested by one Participating Member whose organization has experienced political and/or servicing problems in its efforts to register one or more URN schemes. It is reportedly onerous to register such a scheme, and the success of registering one cannot be predicted. It was not known to anyone present at the meeting exactly what benefits, if any, are obtainable by successfully registering a URN scheme, and what penalties, if any, are incurred by using an unregistered scheme. In order to support the Semantic Web, XTM will need the ability to use at least one URN scheme, whether registered or unregistered. Such a scheme will be needed in order to support the public availability of public subject descriptors (PSDs), and particularly in order to support direct comparison of public subject identifiers (PSIs) by XTM-conforming applications. (A new subgroup, the Public Subject Identifier Subgroup, was chartered by the Syntax Subgroup to devise and propose a URN scheme for PSIs, and to do such research on the subject as it sees fit; see also the report on this elsewhere in these minutes.) (See also the report on NewsML in these minutes for an interesting sidebar about an economically significant industrial organization that has recently devised and has fully adopted a yet-unregistered URN scheme.) *************************************************************** -Steve -- Steven R. Newcomb, Consultant srn@coolheads.com voice: +1 972 359 8160 fax: +1 972 359 0270 405 Flagler Court Allen, Texas 75013-2821 USA -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor -------------------------~-~> Get FREE long-distance phone calls on Tellme! Dial 1-800-555-TELL, say "Phone Booth" http://click.egroups.com/1/9816/4/_/337252/_/971902497/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------_-> To Post a message, send it to: xtm-wg@eGroups.com To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: xtm-wg-unsubscribe@eGroups.com
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