Re: [xtm-wg] A challenge on "the graph"

["W. Eliot Kimber" <eliot@isogen.com>]

Lars Marius Garshol wrote:

> * Lars Marius Garshol
> |
> | - it is very closely tied to implementation. In fact, UML is more
> |   suitable as documentation of implementations and designs than as
> |   anything else.
> 
> * W. Eliot Kimber
> |
> | This is not true--UML has been *used* primarily to document
> | implementations, but there is nothing about UML that *requires* that
> | use.
> 
> What I mean is that UML describes classes with methods, which is what
> you have when you've finished your design. 

No, UML *allows* classes with methods, but there is no requirement that
a UML class have any methods. Thats how you can have a UML static data
model: classes with only attributes but no methods. But in any case *I
DEMAND AN API* so you will have to specify methods somewhere in the
processing model.

If this effort does not result in a standard default API for accessing
topic maps it will have been wasted effort. IMNSHO.

> | We use UML almost exclusively to define high-level data models that
> | are explicitly not implementation models.
> 
> OK, maybe there are UML features that I don't know about that would
> make it suitable for this purpose. Can you make a quick-and-dirty
> model of, say, a topic with its properties (just the topic) and post
> it so that we can see what it looks like?

Look at the work I did back in Paris. That is *EXACTLY* what I created.
This is my frustration: WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGHT THE $#%^# EXERCISE
OF USING UML TO DEFINE BOTH A CONCEPTUAL AND PROCESSING MODEL OF TOPIC
MAPS. THERE CAN BE NO QUESTION ABOUT THE ABILITY TO DO IT BECAUSE WE
ALREADY DID IT A YEAR AGO.

I'm yelling because it appears that the weeks of work a bunch of us did
on this has been COMPLETELY IGNORED!!!!!. Why? The depth of my
frustration cannot be overstated. It's maddening. 

I don't have a problem with making a business decision that says "UML is
not the appropriate choice for {some legitimate reason}" BUT I DO OBJECT
TO THE CONSTANT MISREPRESENTATION OF UML AND THE CONTINUED QUESTIONING
OF ITS UTILITY IN THE FACE OF ESTABLISHED EXISTENCE PROOFS.

Cheers,

E.
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