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Subject: Re: [xtm-wg] Fixing language.xtm and country.xtm


Lars Marius Garshol wrote:
> 
> * Lars Marius Garshol
> |
> | Why not publish them right now, so that we can discuss them and get
> | this out of the way?
> 
> * Sam Hunting
> |
> | Murray gave several reasons -- thread creep seems to have caused them
> | to omitted from your posting.
> 
> I responded to the reasons I saw. If I've missed any, feel free to
> point them out.

[I wrote up a nice long reply and then Netscape crashed on me. So this
one is a bit shorter.]

As Nikita, Sam and I have been trying to state, and either you're not
listening or you simply disagree, there is *no* organization or 
organizational structure that would allow us to have useful and 
productive work that resulted in a stable document. If were were to
publish a replacement for a fundamental part of the XTM 1.0 spec and
people were to begin using it, that would be an abuse of any remaining
trust or public integrity we might have. Yes, we have the keys to 
the web site, but we'd be better off posting nudie pictures there 
than corrupting our current work with products that don't come from
a recognized group. Right now, it'd be a publication of "Murray,
Lars Marius, and anyone who agreed." That's not productive.


The fact that you suggest that people "in the know" could begin using
the updated language.xtm and country.xtm topic maps is a strong 
indication that we should not make them available until such time as 
there is an organization that *can* approve their use. It's highly
unlikely that they wouldn't be changed in some way during the TC process.
Rushing this may be in your best interests, but I don't think it's in 
the community's. We need stability much more than we need a new topic
map.

Murray

...........................................................................
Murray Altheim, SGML/XML Grease Monkey     <mailto:altheim&#64;eng.sun.com>
XML Technology Center
Sun Microsystems, 1601 Willow Rd., MS UMPK17-102, Menlo Park, CA 94025

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         of timberland and stream
         but it is dying because of the greed
         and money lust of a thousand little kings -- archy (1927)

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