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Subject: Re: Announce: Beginnings of a new XSL stylesheet library for UBL 1.0 documents

Hi Ken,

> I'm trying to promote getting away from proprietary 
> technologies by making these freely available.

It might be worth having a think a bit more about what you are saying. One the
one hand you are promoting cranesoftwrights, which I have no problem with, and
then you are saying you want to get away proprietory, which is what you are
making. That confuses me.

Maybe you mean "no-cost" rather than non-proprietory. It just helps everyone if
you can be more clear. Nothing wrong with a proprietory no-cost solution, look
at winzip etc..

There certainly is going to be space for UBL document rendering software.

However, at the moment, it's hard to get any company to commit to using UBL as
the printing solutions are currently way too primitive. We have found, that UBL
needs some extensions to make it more saleable, and these can only be done with
proprietory extensions.

But generally, I agree with your philosophy to get some tools out there which
will do the job.

Best Regards


Quoting "G. Ken Holman" <gkholman@CraneSoftwrights.com>:

> At 2004-05-21 11:40 +0100, Pedro Alves wrote:
> >On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 06:26:17AM +0300, G. Ken Holman wrote:
> > > At 2004-05-20 20:04 -0400, david.lyon@tradalogs.com wrote:
> > > >I've had a look at your resources and they seem to look quite good.
> > >
> > > Thank you ... I'm hoping to complete them soon and am looking for
> feedback.
> >
> >     As soon as I can, I will give you some :) This will be excelent for a
> >product we are developing. I chose ubl as the "core" structure and this
> >xsl's will come in hand for displaying documents. May I use them? :)
> Yes, I wrote these stylesheets so that they can be used by anyone.  You'll 
> find in the stylesheets that I use the Modified BSD License which requires 
> you to preserve my copyright on my stuff that you use, including the 
> hyperlink to our web site.  You can use these in any free or commercial 
> system as you wish.
> > > Back to your "how to fit them in to some existing system?" question: I'm
> > > not sure ... are existing systems modular enough to accommodate XSLT
> > > engines and XSL-FO engines in order to exploit my freely-available
> > > stylesheets?  I don't know.
> > >
> > > Perhaps we can start a thread here on UBL-Dev regarding existing systems
> > > and their support of print and display.  I'm guessing that existing 
> > systems
> > > probably use proprietary technologies for rendering rather than "plug
> and
> > > play" XSL stylesheets.
> >
> >     My "fit them in to some existing systems" is XSL stylesheets ! IMHO,
> >this is the correct way to go!
> Amen to that ... I'm trying to promote getting away from proprietary 
> technologies by making these freely available.
> Thanks, Pedro!
> ...................... Ken
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