RE: [ubl-dev] No possibility to include the InvoiceeParty inUBL1.0Invoic

Hello Stephen,

There is a problem with the assumptions that the buyer is always the invoicee.

Technically (and practically, I might add) we have 4 different parties involved in the process.

- The Buyer party which is ordering the goods.

- The Supplier party which supplies the goods

- The Invoicee party which gets the invoice on behalf of the buyer

- The Invoicer party which sends the invoice on behalf of the supplier

The Originator party in the order might even be different from those 4 already mentioned.

I guess, as this is on the UBL issues list, others seem to have the same problems. We have such cases where we need all the different informations for the parties.

Best regards

Kai Wesling

Subject: Re: [ubl-dev] No possibility to include the InvoiceeParty inUBL1.0Invoice

From: "Stephen Green" <stephen_green@bristol-city.gov.uk>
To: <"'ubl-dev@lists.oasis-open.org'"<ubl-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>>
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:28:58 +0100

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Jan

Others may be able to answer this better but in the meantime here is my take on it.

You may need to wait until UBL 1.1 for extra parties to be defined. It is an action

item in the UBL issues list (following requests regarding mapping to EDI).

For now it is assumed that the Buyer is, by definition, I think (others may be able to

confirm this or otherwise) the Invoicee. There is the Originator party in the UBL order

but this has no counterpart in the UBL invoice. Is it that the party paying the invoice

is not necessarily the Invoicee? It is assumed in UBL 1.0 (1) that the party receiving the

invoice is the Buyer and (2) that the invoice would be directed to the party paying the invoice

which it is assumed is the Buyer. In which of these assumptions is there the problem?

While UBL has it on the action list for 1.1 to improve this for interoperability with EDI

standards it may be that your case should be a further consideration.

All the best

Stephen Green

>>> "Riepshoff, Jan" <J.Riepshoff@conxpert.de> 14/09/04 15:57:04 >>>

Hello there,

we are using the UBL1.0 standard for transportation from an SAP system into

a proprietary system.

We need to include quite a pile of information from the SAP iDoc into the

UBL1.0_INVOICE.

Now my question:

What has happened to the "InvoiceeParty" which I've seen in older versions

of the standard?

It is very important for us to have a Node where the information about the

party paying the invoice (since it's not inevitably the BuyerParty) can be

transported.

I think it would be very meaningful to re-include this node into the

standard.

But for the moment I need a solution for my problem. Has anyone a solution

for me? I don't want to misuse a node in a wrong way.

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