Re: [ubl-dev] No possibility to include the InvoiceeParty inUBL1. 0Invoice

["Stephen Green" <stephen_green@seventhproject.co.uk>]

Re: [ubl-dev] No possibility to include the InvoiceeParty inUBL1.0InvoiceThanks Kai

Now that UBL 1.0 has just been approved by the TC to go forward to OASIS
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/200409/msg00044.html
for standardisation, hopefully this can become one of the 1.1 considerations.

All the best

Stephen Green

----- Original Message -----
From: Wesling, Kai
To: 'ubl-dev@lists.oasis-open.org'
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 3:45 PM
Subject: RE: [ubl-dev] No possibility to include the InvoiceeParty inUBL1. 0Invoice


Hello Stephen,

There is a problem with the assumptions that the buyer is always the invoicee.

Technically (and practically, I might add) we have 4 different parties involved in the process.
- The Buyer party which is ordering the goods.
- The Supplier party which supplies the goods
- The Invoicee party which gets the invoice on behalf of the buyer
- The Invoicer party which sends the invoice on behalf of the supplier

The Originator party in the order might even be different from those 4 already mentioned.

I guess, as this is on the UBL issues list, others seem to have the same problems. We have such cases where we need all the
different informations for the parties.

Best regards
--
Kai Wesling




Subject: Re: [ubl-dev] No possibility to include the InvoiceeParty inUBL1.0Invoice
From: "Stephen Green" <stephen_green@bristol-city.gov.uk>
To: <"'ubl-dev@lists.oasis-open.org'"<ubl-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>>
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:28:58 +0100
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Jan

Others may be able to answer this better but in the meantime here is my take on it.

You may need to wait until UBL 1.1 for extra parties to be defined. It is an action
item in the UBL issues list (following requests regarding mapping to EDI).

For now it is assumed that the Buyer is, by definition, I think (others may be able to
confirm this or otherwise) the Invoicee. There is the Originator party in the UBL order
but this has no counterpart in the UBL invoice. Is it that the party paying the invoice
is not necessarily the Invoicee? It is assumed in UBL 1.0 (1) that the party receiving the
invoice is the Buyer and (2) that the invoice would be directed to the party paying the invoice
which it is assumed is the Buyer. In which of these assumptions is there the problem?

While UBL has it on the action list for 1.1 to improve this for interoperability with EDI
standards it may be that your case should be a further consideration.

All the best

Stephen Green


>>> "Riepshoff, Jan" <J.Riepshoff@conxpert.de> 14/09/04 15:57:04 >>>
Hello there,

we are using the UBL1.0 standard for transportation from an SAP system into
a proprietary system.
We need to include quite a pile of information from the SAP iDoc into the
UBL1.0_INVOICE.

Now my question:
What has happened to the "InvoiceeParty" which I've seen in older versions
of the standard?
It is very important for us to have a Node where the information about the
party paying the invoice (since it's not inevitably the BuyerParty) can be
transported.
I think it would be very meaningful to re-include this node into the
standard.
But for the moment I need a solution for my problem. Has anyone a solution
for me? I don't want to misuse a node in a wrong way.