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Subject: RE: [ubl-dev] How big can the invoice number field be?
Thank you all for your wonderful responses! For some background, we are using the Ariba suite of applications, which has already been architected for the most part to be length agnostic. So, yes it does come down to limitations on the sending or receiving end. The data does eventually get stored or used somewhere. In an electronic payment fashion there are probably fewer limitations. Most organizations still print checks for at least some of their spend. I checked with our Account Payable for experience on the largest invoice number (or alphanumeric identifier) we've ever seen. LFG, which was already a Fortune 500, recently merged with a company of the same size so I checked with two places. Both came back with 15. LFG does not do as much international business, so I'm not sure what a company like GE would see. I could envision companies using prefixes, etc. in the identifier to make identification and routing easier. So a longer length is not necessarily absurd, even though I know that concatenating meaningful information inside of an identifier is not a best practice in modern application programming. As a large financial company which uses mainframe programming for most of the heavy lifting, LFG is slower to change and does still utilize legacy applications for many things. These systems like field limits for some reason ;-) We use SunTrust CDS to cut our checks. One limitation we'd have is answering the question "How much space do we want to reserve on a printed check for the invoice number?" If you have an aggregated payment, you may have 80+ invoice payments going out on one check. Add to that invoice date, invoice amount, and maybe a description, then you are running into a real world scenario where you would want to choose a definite field limit. Couldn't it just be dynamic? Well, yes if you're willing to replace your legacy systems. It is unlikely that we would send a notice to every supplier we have telling them that they can not send us an invoice number with a length larger than x. My question was to see if there was a general understood notion of how long the number should be. Or possibly, how big of a number could LFG realistically get and properly prepare for (99.999% of the time)? It doesn't seem like there is a published "best practice." So far, I'm agreeing with what I'm seeing in the notes that it should only be a suggestion for the purposes of UBL, or worked out specifically between two companies who are architecting a solution in the... (CAM?). Looks like I have some acronyms to brush up on! This is great! Thanks again! -Tom Tobey ================================= Thomas N. Tobey Systems Analyst Lincoln Financial Group 1300 S. Clinton St. Fort Wayne, IN 46805 260-455-3704 Thomas.Tobey@LFG.com Notice of Confidentiality: **This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Lincoln National Corporation proprietary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to copyright belonging to the Lincoln National Corporation family of companies. This E-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this E-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents of and attachments to this E-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this E-mail and any printout. Thank You.**
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