Re: [ubl-dev] Tool question

[Stephen Green <stephengreenubl@gmail.com>]

Excellently informative Ken, many thanks.

So say I want to make my own schemas starting with
some UBL-format modeling spreadsheets or CCTS
format modeling spreadsheets; do I first have to decide
whether to use the 2.0 NDR or the 2.1 NDR?

Will I be able to use tools like the one from Turkey (I'm 
guessing that is the iSURF initiative one) to make some
schemas or will that depend what NDR I choose? 

Can I at this moment use the iSURF one to create schemas

for UBL 2.0 NDR? I'm guessing it might be too early to
make 2.1 schemas from my own modeling spreadsheets.
Will I have to wait for updates to tools to create 2.1 NDR
schemas? (I wouldn't mind the wait.) I got the impression

for iSURF that I need to create the model online in the
tool itself rather than importing conventional spreadsheets
into it. Will the taskforce be using spreadsheets like this
or transfering the document designs into the tool by hand?  


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Stephen D Green

2009/7/19 G. Ken Holman <gkholman@cranesoftwrights.com>

At 2009-07-19 15:43 +0100, Stephen Green wrote:

Is any of the free tools for UBL capable of taking a set
of conventional CCTS spreadsheet-defined models and
generating UBL 2 NDR schemas?

I am unsure of the status of UBLer (Oriol) and UBLish (Chee-Kai), and soon the community will have the publicly-available work from Turkey (Asuman).

Would there be a difference between wanting UBL 2.0
schemas and 2.1 schemas? Does this amount to the
same thing?

Close but not quite ... there will be an NDR 2.1 to cover the differences.  For example, qualified data types are going to be expressed outside of the spreadsheets, thus outside of the XSD schemas, realized entirely in a second-pass value validation process.  Accordingly, *all* BBIEs will be based on unqualified data types in the schema.  I've proposed the use of OASIS context/value association (CVA) files to express all information item qualifications to satisfy the qualified data type concept.  Users of UBL will be able to integrate their own information item qualifications with the committee qualifications so that requirements such as field length limits (not a constraint imposed by the committee but possibly necessarily imposed by a community of users) can be incorporated into their own processes:

 Context/value association using genericode 0.7 draft 2
    http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=33336

The Schema Generation Task Group (SGTG) will (I hope!) this week be publishing to the UBL TC for committee review the proposed strategy document for UBL 2.1 validation artefacts.  I have it all drawn up, documented and I have created a working prototype environment where I've created the necessary UBL 2.1 artefacts using UBL 2.0 spreadsheets.

I look forward to hearing any comments/suggestions should we make it to the committee review status this week.

. . . . . . . . . . . . Ken


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