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Subject: Re: FW: [ubl-lcsc] Stylesheets delivered to Lisa; interesting image attached

Thank you Sue and Tim for your kind words.

The UBL committee made it easy for me by responding to questions and 
suggestions and accommodating my requirements for XML processing in the 
flavours of the schemas that were refined at the 11th hour.  As I said 
during the teleconference, I couldn't have done what I did without the UBL 
committee pushing hard to see that everything was there that I needed, and 
I thank you all for that.

As Tim said much work remains, though, as the stylesheet infrastructure you 
see after about 170 man hours of effort is just that: an infrastructure and 
its documentation.  It is now debugged and ready to "plug in" the mappings 
between UBL documents and form layout fields, and work should proceed 
*very* quickly (there is no more infrastructure that I can think of to 
enhance the process) to create the visualizations of instances of UBL 
schemas once those mappings are documented and accepted.

You may have noticed by now that for six of the seven document types I am 
not doing anything with instances and am only drawing boxes ... and for the 
seventh document type (Order) I'm only handling a few of the fields at this 
early stage.

Any lobbying you can do to UNedocs for information such as:

  (1) - allocation of document numbers for UBL documents that do not exist
        as UN documents (I'm using X## numbers for now; can we get
        "official" document numbers for new documents?  Have I used the
        correct documents for the UBL documents where I'm already using UN
        document numbers?)

  (2) - sactioned modifications of the traditional layouts to meet UBL needs
        (how can "old" fields not being addressed by UBL be replaced with
        "new" fields carrying important UBL information? I don't see it as
        very important to keep around a field that was useful for manual
        systems but not useful for UBL.)

  (3) - guidance in the mappings (though I think you and Jean have that in
        hand already; which is magic to me: I'm a stylesheet geek and don't
        have the subject matter expertise to know what goes where like the
        two of you have demonstrated to me that you have)

... would be very helpful.

After that, it is up to the users of UBL to tell us about the formatting 
and human presentation of the instances so we can respond to their needs.

I can't wait!

...................... Ken

p.s. I'm also hoping to research how to turn this stuff inside out and 
perhaps build a form-based UBL instance creation infrastructure with a web 

At 2003-01-27 15:33 -0800, Probert, Sue wrote:
>Me too! Wow, Ken, this is starting to get really exciting. I will be sharing
>this with my UNedocs colleagues and look forward to planning with you and
>your colleagues how we might plan to move forward to using this technology
>to illustrate cross-border trade facilitation.
>From: Tim McGrath
>Sent: 27 January 2003 00:39
>I, for one, am amazed and what is now being produced.  Ken's work is
>really the first UBL application and its results show the value of all
>the effort UBL has put in.  Obviously, we have work to do, but to see
>such artifacts is a great encouragement.

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