Re: [ubl-tsc] Question about consignments and shipments

[Jon Bosak <bosak@pinax.com>]

Very helpful, Roberto.  Thanks!

Jon

Roberto Cisternino wrote:
> The "Shipment", when facilitated by an international freight forwarder,
> represents the whole end-to-end organization of the goods transport on
> behalf of the Shipper.
>
> A Shipment possibly involves one or more Carriers and related transport
> contracts (one or more consignments in a single shipment).
>
> The consolidated shipment is a transport optimization organized by the
> freight forwarder to ensure a given container is fully loaded (FCL - Full
> Container Load). This is to save money but also to provide a more
> competitive tariff.
>
> In a single container the freight forwarder can consolidate several
> consignments of different Shippers (AKA: grouppage) until the container is
> full.
>
> So we have these cases:
> a) 1 Shipment - 1 Consignment
> b) 1 Shipment - many Consignments (many carriers) of the same Shipper
> c) 1 Shipment - many Consignment of different Shippers
> (grouppage/consolidated shipment)
> d) Splitted shipment (huge shipment) even using different vessels (so
> pratically different consignments)
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Ciao
> Roberto
>
> > The slides help a lot -- thanks.  Perhaps we can put some version of
> > this in the hubdoc?
> >
> > I'm still wondering about "consolidated shipment" (Consignment.
> > Consolidated_ Shipment. Shipment). Is this one of the shipments shown in
> > slide 5, or is this something else that combines a set of shipment
> > pieces into a synthetic shipment for some legal purpose?
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > Tim McGrath wrote:
> > > here is my slides describing the 'split' and 'consolidation' options for
> > > shipments and consignments.  we struggled a long time on these
> > > definitions and actually got them approved by experts so we have to be
> > > careful changing them.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/07/12 5:03 AM, Jon Bosak wrote:
> > > > Hello TSC,
> > > >
> > > > I'm in the process of reviewing the definitions in the common library
> > > > and am now considering the ABIE "Consignment" (Consignment. Details).
> > > > I
> > > > note that a consignment (row 284) can contain multiple shipments (under
> > > > the name "Consignment. Consolidated_ Shipment. Shipment", row 344), but
> > > > I also note that every shipment (row 1672) can contain multiple
> > > > consignments (under the name Shipment. Consignment, row 1694). This has
> > > > something to do with the notion of consolidation, but I can't figure
> > > > out
> > > > what.
> > > >
> > > > Are consignments collections of shipments, or are shipments collections
> > > > of consignments?  And what does this have to do with consolidation?
> > > >
> > > > Jon
> > > >
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