Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 10|11 January 2005

[jon.bosak@sun.com]

MINUTES OF PACIFIC UBL TC MEETING
00H30 - 02H30 UTC TUESDAY 11 JANUARY 2005
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   19h30 - 21h30 Mon Washington
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ATTENDANCE

   Jon Bosak (chair)
   Jessica Glace
   Betty Harvey
   G. Ken Holman
   Tim McGrath
   Sylvia Webb

STANDING ITEMS

   Additions to the calendar (http://ibiblio.org/bosak/ubl/calendar.htm)

      TimM will be presenting a paper at the IEEE Workshop on
      Business Services in Hong Kong (2005.03.29-04.01).

   Liaison reports (if any)

      TimM: Have been discussing UBL/CIQ convergence with Ram
      Kumar.  Had understood that they were adopting the CC
      approach and the UBL NDRs for the next release of CIQ, but
      the material we're seeing doesn't bear this out.  There
      seems to be more emphasis on presentation of addresses than
      their semantics; this presents problems in mapping between
      CIQ and UBL.  CIQ seems to be getting a lot of adoption
      among government agencies, so it would be good if we could
      converge.

      JonB: I thought from the initial description of the CIQ
      initiative that there would be an emphasis on semantics to
      support customer quality, targeting based on demographics,
      etc.

      TimM: In the upcoming CIQ there are two models, Basic and
      Enhanced; the materials we've seen are for Basic.  Maybe the
      Enhanced model has the semantics.  Will check.

      JonB: WRT "XNL" (the other CIQ deliverable) -- this sounds
      like Person, which looks like it will be needed for
      government work.

      TimM: Person and Organization would be flavors of Party.

   Subcommittee reports (if any)

      HISC (GKH): Meetings have been on hold, but trying to start
      again this week.  MicahD has put forward proposals that the
      SC should discuss.

      SSC (SylviaW): Met last week; will report to the Atlantic TC
      that schema/spreadsheet alignment activities are now
      complete and the SC is comfortable with what DavidK has
      produced so far.  The remaining issues are true 1.1 issues;
      the 1.0 issues are now closed.  The NDR issues identified as
      1.0 should be relabeled 1.1.

   Team reports (if any)

      None.

   Other

      JonB: XTech (aka XML Europe)?

      GHK: Mikkel Brun has submitted a presentation on UBL in DK.

      JonB: That should be fine for UBL this time.  Maybe we can
      get something additional in when Late-Breaking News opens
      up.

ISSUES FOR DISCUSSION THIS MEETING

   JonB: Note Public Comment from Tim Hare requesting addition of
   Customer Receipt and reply to that comment from Dean Sleeper
   (see ubl-comment archive).

   TimM: We can't just include the ARTS receipt schema; we need to
   study their info model and implement a similar one so that we
   can map between the two.  In the UBL framework, this would be a
   Remittance Advice.

   JonB: Then this is important; the Remittance Advice appears to
   be the one document missing from our initial set.

   JonB to copy pointers on this to BettyH.

      [For the record:
      http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/200501/msg00000.html
      http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/200501/msg00001.html]

   BettyH to add this item to the content issues list and redo the
   list as a spreadsheet.  The question to be resolved is whether
   to add Remittance Advice to the 1.1 document set.

   TimM: Have been in correspondence with Anders Tell regarding
   two of the proposed additions (AllowanceChargeBaseAmount and
   TaxCurrencyTaxAmount).  Not entirely sure what's required here
   and am requesting more info.  The rest of the Swedish items are
   still "work in progress"; we should now consider each one in
   turn, see whether we have enough info, decide whether to
   implement, and if so, how best to do it.

   For next week: Take stock using the new spreadsheet, categorize
   and prioritize.

   Homework: Review the invoice-related items using the existing
   issues list (section 2.3.1 of Betty's document) and hope for
   feedback from Anders Tell.

Jon Bosak
Chair, OASIS UBL TC