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Subject: Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 06 September 2017 14:00UTC
Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 06 September 2017 14:00UTC ATTENDANCE Todd Albers Kenneth Bengtsson Erlend Klakegg Bergheim Peter Borresen Kees Duvekot G. Ken Holman (convener) Ole Madsen Enric Staromiejski Torregrosa REFERENCING THE SPECIFICATION - the following should be used as a specific citation: OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015) - the following would be used for a general (any version) citation: OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845) - the canonical documents are available in the OASIS repository: http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/ - the ISO/IEC catalogue entry is found at: http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=66370 - the ISO/IEC document and attachments are found at: http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/ STANDING ITEMS Additions to events calendar: http://ubl.xml.org/events - no new events to add at this time Review of Atlantic call minutes https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201708/msg00028.html Membership status review https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=ubl https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ubl/members/roster.php?num_items=80 - voting status is determined by the following: - existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to maintain voting status - non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain voting status - members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and their voting status is not impacted - current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical) and relationships: - Todd Albers - Member ASC X9 AB, Member ISO 20022 Payment SEG, Member W3C Web Payments Interest Group - Oriol Bausà Peris - Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML, Editor TC434 Validation - Kenneth Bengtsson - Chair OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT - Erlend Klakegg Bergheim - Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS - Member CEN/TC434/WS8 - Peter Borresen - DK Member CEN/TC440, Assistant Convenor TC440/WG7 - Kees Duvekot - Member OASIS BDXR - G. Ken Holman (Chair OASIS UBL TC) - Member OASIS BDXR, CA Member JTC 1/SC32, CA Expert UN/CEFACT - Ole Ellerbæk Madsen - DK Member CEN/TC440, CEN/TC440 Liaison JTC 1/SC 32 - members losing voting status after this meeting: - Oriol Bausà Peris - active non-voting members - Roberto Cisternino - IT Expert UN/CEFACT - Audun Vennesland - new member orientation information: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59647 UBL 2.2 - Peter managing requirements for transportation documents - Kees managing requirements for post-award documents - Ole managing requirements for pre-award documents - Roberto managing requirements for party information documents - the UBL 2.2 CSPRD01 first 45-day public review has just ended: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201701/msg00019.html - draft disposition of public comments has been started: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GpAMQDtoxSAiRPwX4uhi5huxpCVutbTKpb9zYO3p-QM/view - committee members can create new JIRA tickets for UBL 2.2 on their own without needing to include them in the summary of public comments - the tickets for the next revision can be found using the same link as before ... please begin commenting on the tickets with your input: https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972 - Ole reports that all tickets for Pre-award are addressed and ready for the next public review - Ken continues to work on the Pre-award changes - each of the pre-award changes needs to be manually added to the main 2.2 spreadsheet (it was thought to be done programmatically) - problems found: - the definition of "DeliveryChannel" is "A class to describe a delivery channel" ... which says nothing at all about what a delivery channel is to help the user (are they expected to know what this is?) - this is not a new problem ... "DeliveryUnit" is in UBL 2.0 and the definition is "A class to describe a delivery unit" - what can be done to improve the definitions? - does anyone have access to some university or college students who could be tasked with coming up with definitions and submitting them to the public comment list? - please contact Ken offline with any ideas - Kees to work with Peter on finalizing Post-award proposed changes - correspondence has begun in this regard - most (maybe all) to be deferred to UBL 2.3 - Kees has proposed to the list the handling of tickets 60, 44 and 137 - https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201709/msg00005.html - countdown to standardization outlined in our UBL Governance document: http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/UBL-Governance/v1.0/cn01/UBL-Governance-v1.0-cn01.html#S-THE-PATHWAY-TO-STANDARDIZATION - say we have finalized all changes (documentation and CCTS) by September start - 30-day public review of CSPRD02 mid-September to mid-October - Candidate OASIS Standard COS1 prepared by the end of October - search begins for Statements of Use of candidate UBL 2.2 - 15-day TC Administration review by end of November - 60-day public review of COS1 over end of February - 14-day OASIS member ballot at beginning of March - late March UBL 2.2 becomes an OASIS Standard - mid-April we begin the ISO revision process for ISO/IEC 19845 - we don't know the TC Admin workload to know if any steps will be delayed - we have already 3 months from our original objective of end of 2017 UBL 2.3 - a posting has been made to the mail archives so that it can be cited in other correspondence: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201702/msg00006.html - Peter managing requirements for transportation documents - Kees managing requirements for post-award documents - Ole managing requirements for pre-award documents - Roberto managing requirements for party information documents - Kenneth and Todd managing requirements for payments and finance documents - based on the UBL 2.2 schedule outlined above, changes could be started for UBL 2.3 consideration and testing at the end of October 2017 - we should further consider the idea raised earlier of splitting UBL into different normative parts - we are considering not taking UBL 2.2 to ISO but waiting for UBL 2.3 as a significant upgrade UBL Transportation Subcommittee - Peter would like to start up meetings of the committee next week - tentatively at 13:30UTC just before the UBL TC Atlantic call - Peter will reach out to ICC - International Chamber of Commerce - can also reach out to UBL Dev - must remember to direct people to either become members or provide their input through the public comment list UBL Payments and Finance Subcommittee - subcommittee meeting to follow this TC meeting Outreach and communications - need to distinguish the role and responsibilities of different available resources: - https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ubl/ - http://ubl.xml.org - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Universal_Business_Language - https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-dev/ - we may have a subcommittee meeting in two week's time JSON Task Group - the TC continues to invite public comment on the latest versions of these specifications until such time as we agree to progress the documents to their next steps in the process: http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/Business-Document-NDR/v1.1/Business-Document-NDR-v1.1.html http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/UBL-2.1-JSON/v1.0/UBL-2.1-JSON-v1.0.html - awaiting TC Administration feedback regarding: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/201705/msg00000.html - as this is a facet of the public perception of an OASIS specification, the OASIS TC Administration not only needs to be involved, but they are the ones to do the heavy lifting with IANA with an amalgam of our needs and their needs, so we have to work with them and through them - ticket created for tracking: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/TCADMIN-2587 - Ken will be creating a new working draft to remove nothing but add some guidelines regarding those extensions to UBL that are specified using CCTS (per the scope of the work product), recognizing there is no attempt to transliterate arbitrary XML into JSON - Kenneth is looking to contact projects using JSON on MongoDB, please contact him if you have any information to share - comment posted for review from Tradeshift - https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/201709/msg00000.html - comment posted for review from Australia (though it is an indirect link and not properly posted for commenting), and it appears to be observations and not a specific comment for action - https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/201709/msg00001.html JIRA tickets https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972 (note that the view can be changed using the box icon at top right; the list view provides the most summary information, without the detail view obscuring the screen space) - when creating tickets, remember to distinguish the following components by how they are described to be used as categories: <https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL/?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:components-panel>https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL/?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:components-panel - if you leave the "Component/s" field empty, the ticket will not show up in the summary filter - status and resolution values: - NEW - the issue has been created but not yet agreed to be in consideration or not for the development distribution - in order for the issue to become active work for the committee the new ticket must be changed to OPEN or it will not be seen in the "to do" filter - the other option on a new ticket is to change it to DEFERRED - please remember to look at the open filter to ensure visibility: https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972 - OPEN - the issue is in consideration for the development distribution - keep the issue OPEN when assigning to Ken for incorporation - please remember to add a comment regarding expectations whenever you assign an OPEN ticket to another person for any action - RESOLVED + Applied - the issue is incorporated in test but not released- RESOLVED + Fixed - the issue is incorporated in a released test version;
(record which one) - RESOLVED + Later - the issue is still up for discussion for a future minor revision but not the current development - RESOLVED + No Action - considered as no action for any distribution - RESOLVED + Cannot Reproduce - considered as no action for distribution - APPLIED - the issue is included in a public review (record which one) - DEFERRED - the issue is not in consideration for any minor revision - please remember to use this when creating new tickets for backwards-incompatible changes - see also the discussion on the status workflows here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201709/msg00000.html - members please note to discuss ticket issues as comments to the ticket so that we can audit the discussion when making decisions about the ticket, without having to find the discussion on the main mail list - to find all of the OASIS TC Administration tickets related to UBL, use the https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13070 filter UPCOMING FACE-TO-FACE MEETING 2018-01-09/10 - Fremantle, Australia https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/event.php?event_id=45350 - focus is on the early developments of 2.3, and anything needed for finalizing 2.2 (which should already be done) - we plan on a welcome dinner the evening of January 8 TC CONCALL SCHEDULE 2017-09-13 Atlantic teleconference 14:00UTC/16:00CEST/10:00EDT 2017-09-20 Atlantic teleconference 14:00UTC/16:00CEST/10:00EDT 2017-09-27 Atlantic teleconference 14:00UTC/16:00CEST/10:00EDT Next Pacific call meetings: CCYY-MM-DD Pacific 02:00UTC/21:00EST - November to March CCYY-MM-DD Pacific 01:00UTC/21:00EST - April to October - these teleconferences are suspended until warranted by attendance Will anyone be requesting a leave of absence in the near future? For privacy reasons, this discussion will be kept off of the minutes. TC calendar: <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl>http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl TC calendar iCal subscription link: <http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup_feeds/ical/my_vcalendar.ics?token=fa658a7994a6cefb10c10be09e139af3&workgroup_id=50>http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup_feeds/ical/my_vcalendar.ics?token=fa658a7994a6cefb10c10be09e139af3&workgroup_id=50 OTHER BUSINESS - none -- Contact info, blog, articles, etc. http://www.CraneSoftwrights.com/o/ | Check our site for free XML, XSLT, XSL-FO and UBL developer resources | Streaming hands-on XSLT/XPath 2 training class @ US$45 (5 hours free) |
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