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Subject: Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 04 October 2017 14:00UTC - voting meeting
Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 04 October 2017 14:00UTC - voting meeting ATTENDANCE Todd Albers Oriol Bausà Kenneth Bengtsson Erlend Klakegg Bergheim Peter Borresen Kees Duvekot G. Ken Holman (convener) Ole Madsen REFERENCING THE SPECIFICATION - the following should be used as a specific citation: OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015) - the following would be used for a general (any version) citation: OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845) - the canonical documents are available in the OASIS repository: http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/ - the ISO/IEC catalogue entry is found at: http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=66370 - the ISO/IEC document and attachments are found at: http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/ STANDING ITEMS Additions to events calendar: http://ubl.xml.org/events- CEN/TC434 Public Conference - Monday, October 23, 2017 - Brussels, Belgium
https://ec.europa.eu/cefdigital/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=48765749 Review of Atlantic call minutes https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201709/msg00047.html Membership status review https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=ubl https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ubl/members/roster.php?num_items=80 - voting status is determined by the following: - existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to maintain voting status - non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain voting status - members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and their voting status is not impacted - current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical) and relationships: - Todd Albers - Member ASC X9 AB, Member ISO 20022 Payment SEG, Member W3C Web Payments Interest Group - Kenneth Bengtsson - Chair OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT - Erlend Klakegg Bergheim - Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS - Member CEN/TC434/WS8 - Peter Borresen - DK Member CEN/TC440, Assistant Convenor TC440/WG7 - Kees Duvekot - Member OASIS BDXR - G. Ken Holman (Chair OASIS UBL TC) - Member OASIS BDXR, CA Member JTC 1/SC32, CA Expert UN/CEFACT - Ole Ellerbæk Madsen - DK Member CEN/TC440, CEN/TC440 Liaison JTC 1/SC 32 - Enric Staromiejski Torregrosa - Member OASIS ebXML, European Commission liaison (DG GROWTH) - members gaining voting status after this meeting: - Oriol Bausà Peris - Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML, Editor TC434 Validation - members approaching losing voting status after next meeting: - Enric Staromiejski Torregrosa - active non-voting members - Roberto Cisternino - IT Expert UN/CEFACT - Audun Vennesland - new member orientation information: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59647 UBL 2.2 - Peter managing requirements for transportation documents - Kees managing requirements for post-award documents - Ole managing requirements for pre-award documents - Roberto managing requirements for party information documents - the finalized UBL 2.2 CSPRD01 comment disposition has been prepared - are we agreed that this document accurately reflects the disposition of the comments received during the UBL 2.2 CSPRD01 public review and do we approve of it being finalized, subject to any non-material changes directed by TC Administration as may be required? https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=61681 - AGREED - unanimous by those present, a majority of voting members - the UBL 2.2 CSD02WD02 working draft has been prepared to be approved as a committee specification draft to be released for second public review - do we approve UBL 2.2 CSD02WD02 as Committee Specification Draft 02 and designate the XML version of the specification as authoritative as packaged here, subject to any non-material changes directed by TC Administration as may be required? https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=61701 - AGREED - unanimous by those present, a majority of voting members - do we approve submitting UBL 2.2 CSD02 as Committee Specification Public Review Draft 02 (CSPRD02) for a 30-day review as packaged here, subject to any non-material changes directed by TC Administration as may be required? https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=61703 - AGREED - unanimous by those present, a majority of voting members - countdown to standardization outlined in our UBL Governance document: http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/UBL-Governance/v1.0/cn01/UBL-Governance-v1.0-cn01.html#S-THE-PATHWAY-TO-STANDARDIZATION - all CSPRD02 changes have been made for public review - 30-day public review of CSPRD02 mid-October to mid-November - being started by mid-October may be ambitious as TC Admin has more than 35 outstanding requests in their queue before we get added to the queue: - https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=14170 - Candidate OASIS Standard COS1 prepared by the end of November- https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process-2017-05-26#OSsubmission
- search begins for Statements of Use of candidate UBL 2.2 - we need three statements of use to make UBL 2.2 a final standard- https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/oasis-defined-terms-2017-05-26#dStatementUse
- 15-day TC Administration review by end of December - 60-day public review of COS1 over end of February - our face-to-face would happen during this time, which is good because we can focus on UBL 2.3 since UBL 2.2 changes will be cemented - 14-day OASIS member ballot at beginning of March - late March UBL 2.2 becomes an OASIS Standard - mid-April we may begin the ISO revision process for ISO/IEC 19845 - current thoughts are we will wait until 2.3 before updating 19845 - we never know what the TC Admin workload will be at any given step to know if any steps will be delayed - we have already 3 months from our original objective of end of 2017 UBL 2.3 - a posting has been made to the mail archives so that it can be cited in other correspondence: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201702/msg00006.html - Peter managing requirements for transportation documents - Kees managing requirements for post-award documents - Ole managing requirements for pre-award documents - Roberto managing requirements for party information documents - Kenneth and Todd managing requirements for payments and finance documents - based on the UBL 2.2 schedule outlined above, changes could be started for UBL 2.3 consideration and testing at the end of October 2017 - we are on schedule for this once UBL 2.2 CSPRD02 is out for public review - we should further consider the idea raised earlier of splitting UBL into different normative parts - we are considering not taking UBL 2.2 to ISO but waiting for UBL 2.3 as a significant upgrade UBL Transportation Subcommittee - nothing to report UBL Payments and Finance Subcommittee - Erlend observed that the Fed has made available the webcast talking about their next steps:<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BWcFja3HrQ>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BWcFja3HrQ
- next subcommittee meeting follows the TC meeting Outreach and communications - need to distinguish the role and responsibilities of different available resources: - https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ubl/ - http://ubl.xml.org - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Universal_Business_Language - https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-dev/ - nothing to report - next subcommittee meeting follows the PayFin meeting JSON Task Group - the TC continues to invite public comment on the latest versions of these specifications until such time as we agree to progress the documents to their next steps in the process: http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/Business-Document-NDR/v1.1/Business-Document-NDR-v1.1.html http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/UBL-2.1-JSON/v1.0/UBL-2.1-JSON-v1.0.html - awaiting TC Administration feedback regarding: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/201705/msg00000.html - as this is a facet of the public perception of an OASIS specification, the OASIS TC Administration not only needs to be involved, but they are the ones to do the heavy lifting with IANA with an amalgam of our needs and their needs, so we have to work with them and through them - ticket created for tracking: https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/TCADMIN-2587 - Ken will be creating a new working draft to remove nothing but add some guidelines regarding those extensions to UBL that are specified using CCTS (per the scope of the work product), recognizing there is no attempt to transliterate arbitrary XML into JSON - Kenneth is looking to contact projects using JSON on MongoDB, please contact him if you have any information to share - comment posted for review from Tradeshift - https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/201709/msg00000.html - comment posted for review from Australia (though it is an indirect link and not properly posted for commenting), and it appears to be observations and not a specific comment for action - https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/201709/msg00001.html JIRA tickets https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972 (note that the view can be changed using the box icon at top right; the list view provides the most summary information, without the detail view obscuring the screen space) - when creating tickets, remember to distinguish the following components by how they are described to be used as categories: <https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL/?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:components-panel>https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL/?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:components-panel - if you leave the "Component/s" field empty, the ticket will not show up in the summary filter - status and resolution values: - NEW - the issue has been created but not yet agreed to be in consideration or not for the development distribution - in order for the issue to become active work for the committee the new ticket must be changed to OPEN or it will not be seen in the "to do" filter - the other option on a new ticket is to change it to DEFERRED - please remember to look at the open filter to ensure visibility: https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972 - OPEN - the issue is in consideration for the development distribution - keep the issue OPEN when assigning to Ken for incorporation - please remember to add a comment regarding expectations whenever you assign an OPEN ticket to another person for any action - RESOLVED + Applied - the issue is incorporated in test but not released- RESOLVED + Fixed - the issue is incorporated in a released test version;
(record which one) - RESOLVED + Later - the issue is still up for discussion for a future minor revision but not the current development - RESOLVED + No Action - considered as no action for any distribution - RESOLVED + Cannot Reproduce - considered as no action for distribution - APPLIED - the issue is included in a public review (record which one) - DEFERRED - the issue is not in consideration for any minor revision - please remember to use this when creating new tickets for backwards-incompatible changes - see also the discussion on the status workflows here: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201709/msg00000.html - members please note to discuss ticket issues as comments to the ticket so that we can audit the discussion when making decisions about the ticket, without having to find the discussion on the main mail list - to find all of the OASIS TC Administration tickets related to UBL, use the https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13070 filter UPCOMING FACE-TO-FACE MEETING 2018-01-09/10 - Fremantle, Australia https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/event.php?event_id=45350 - focus is on the early developments of 2.3, and anything needed for finalizing 2.2 (which should already be done) - a welcome BBQ is planned for the afternoon of January 8 - ACTION: if you intend to attend, please send privately to Ken and whether you have a +1 TC CONCALL SCHEDULE 2017-10-11 Atlantic call cancelled 2017-10-18 Atlantic teleconference 14:00UTC/16:00CEST/10:00EDT 2017-10-25 Atlantic teleconference 14:00UTC/16:00CEST/10:00EDT Next Pacific call meetings: CCYY-MM-DD Pacific 02:00UTC/21:00EST - November to March CCYY-MM-DD Pacific 01:00UTC/21:00EST - April to October - these teleconferences are suspended until warranted by attendance Will anyone be requesting a leave of absence in the near future? For privacy reasons, this discussion will be kept off of the minutes. TC calendar: <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl>http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl TC calendar iCal subscription link: <http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup_feeds/ical/my_vcalendar.ics?token=fa658a7994a6cefb10c10be09e139af3&workgroup_id=50>http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup_feeds/ical/my_vcalendar.ics?token=fa658a7994a6cefb10c10be09e139af3&workgroup_id=50 OTHER BUSINESS - none -- Contact info, blog, articles, etc. http://www.CraneSoftwrights.com/o/ | Check our site for free XML, XSLT, XSL-FO and UBL developer resources | Streaming hands-on XSLT/XPath 2 training class @ US$45 (5 hours free) |
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