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Subject: Agenda for Atlantic UBL TC call 01 November 2017 15:00UTC - voting meeting

Agenda for Atlantic UBL TC call 01 November 2017 15:00UTC - voting meeting

(Non-European committee members should make note of the time as it may be
different than last week; no clock change for members calling from Europe)


  Meeting ID: 547 975 473

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    - the following should be used as a specific citation:
      OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015)
    - the following would be used for a general (any version) citation:
      OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845)
    - the canonical documents are available in the OASIS repository:
    - the ISO/IEC catalogue entry is found at:
    - the ISO/IEC document and attachments are found at:


   Additions to events calendar: http://ubl.xml.org/events
    - any new events to add at this time?

   Review of Atlantic call minutes

   Membership status review

    - voting status is determined by the following:
      - existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to
        maintain voting status
      - non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain
        voting status
      - members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and
        their voting status is not impacted
    - current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical) and relationships:
      - Todd Albers
        - Member ASC X9 AB, Member ISO 20022 Payment SEG, Member W3C Web
          Payments Interest Group
      - Kenneth Bengtsson
        - Chair OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT
      - Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
        - Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS
        - Member CEN/TC434/WS8
      - Peter Borresen
        - DK Member CEN/TC440, Assistant Convenor TC440/WG7
      - Kees Duvekot
        - Member OASIS BDXR
      - G. Ken Holman (Chair OASIS UBL TC)
        - Member OASIS BDXR, CA Member JTC 1/SC32, CA Expert UN/CEFACT
      - Ole Ellerbæk Madsen
        - DK Member CEN/TC440, CEN/TC440 Liaison JTC 1/SC 32
    - members approaching losing voting status after this meeting:
      - Peter Borresen
      - Ole Ellerbæk Madsen
    - active non-voting members
      - Oriol Bausà Peris
        - Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML, Editor TC434 Validation
     - Roberto Cisternino
        - IT Expert UN/CEFACT
      - Enric Staromiejski Torregrosa
        - Member OASIS ebXML, European Commission liaison (DG GROWTH)
      - Audun Vennesland
    - new member orientation information:

UBL 2.2
 - Peter managing requirements for transportation documents
 - Kees managing requirements for post-award documents
 - Ole managing requirements for pre-award documents
 - Roberto managing requirements for party information documents
 - ticket submitted for release of the second public review for comment:


   - Ken has requested TC Admin to hold on processing until the TC prepares
     and votes on a replacement second public review package

 - the originally submitted UBL CSD02WD02 and CSPRD02 packages are out of date

   - do we approve withdrawing UBL 2.2 CSD02WD02 package 20171003-2150z as
     the originally-submitted Committee Specification Draft 02 package?

   - do we approve withdrawing UBL 2.2 CSPRD02 package 20171003-2320z as the
     originally-submitted Committee Specification Public Review 02 package?

 - the UBL 2.2 CSD02WD02 working draft has been prepared a second time
   to be approved as a committee specification draft to be released for
   second public review

   - do we approve UBL 2.2 CSD02WD02 package 20171030-1620z as Committee
     Specification Draft 02 and designate the XML version of the
     specification as authoritative as packaged here, subject to any
     non-material changes directed by TC Administration as may be required?

   - do we approve submitting UBL 2.2 CSD02 as Committee Specification
     Public Review Draft 02 (CSPRD02) package 20171030-2210z for a
     30-day review as packaged here, subject to any non-material changes
     directed by TC Administration as may be required?

 - countdown to standardization outlined in our UBL Governance document:


   - 30-day public review of CSPRD02 mid-October to mid-November
     - being started by mid-October may be ambitious as TC Admin has
       more than 35 outstanding requests in their queue before we
       get added to the queue:
       - https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=14170
   - Candidate OASIS Standard COS1 prepared by the end of November
- https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process-2017-05-26#OSsubmission
   - search begins for Statements of Use of candidate UBL 2.2
     - we need three statements of use to make UBL 2.2 a final standard
- https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/oasis-defined-terms-2017-05-26#dStatementUse
   - 15-day TC Administration review by end of December
   - 60-day public review of COS1 over end of February
     - our face-to-face would happen during this time, which is good because
       we can focus on UBL 2.3 since UBL 2.2 changes will be cemented
   - 14-day OASIS member ballot at beginning of March
   - late March UBL 2.2 becomes an OASIS Standard
   - mid-April we may begin the ISO revision process for ISO/IEC 19845
     - current thoughts are we will wait until 2.3 before updating 19845
   - we never know what the TC Admin workload will be at any given step
     to know if any steps will be delayed
   - we have already 3 months from our original objective of end of 2017

UBL 2.3
 - a posting has been made to the mail archives so that it can be cited
   in other correspondence:


 - Peter managing requirements for transportation documents
 - Kees managing requirements for post-award documents
 - Ole managing requirements for pre-award documents
 - Roberto managing requirements for party information documents
 - Kenneth and Todd managing requirements for payments and finance documents
 - based on the UBL 2.2 schedule outlined above, changes could be started
   for UBL 2.3 consideration and testing at the end of October 2017
   - we are on schedule for this once UBL 2.2 CSPRD02 is out for public review
 - we should further consider the idea raised earlier of splitting UBL into
   different normative parts
 - we are considering not taking UBL 2.2 to ISO but waiting for UBL 2.3
   as a significant upgrade

UBL Transportation Subcommittee
 - a meeting has been called in advance of the UBL TC meeting:

UBL Payments and Finance Subcommittee
 - anything to report?
 - next subcommittee meeting follows next TC meeting

Outreach and communications
 - work progressing on analyzing current communication channels
 - next subcommittee meeting follows the next PayFin meeting

JSON Task Group
 - the TC continues to invite public comment on the latest versions of
   these specifications until such time as we agree to progress the documents
   to their next steps in the process:


 - awaiting TC Administration feedback regarding:


   - as this is a facet of the public perception of an OASIS specification,
     the OASIS TC Administration not only needs to be involved, but they are
     the ones to do the heavy lifting with IANA with an amalgam of our
     needs and their needs, so we have to work with them and through them
     - ticket created for tracking:


 - Ken will be creating a new working draft to remove nothing but add some
   guidelines regarding those extensions to UBL that are specified using
   CCTS (per the scope of the work product), recognizing there is no attempt
   to transliterate arbitrary XML into JSON
 - Kenneth is looking to contact projects using JSON on MongoDB, please
   contact him if you have any information to share
 - comment posted for review from Tradeshift
   - https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/201709/msg00000.html
 - comment posted for review from Australia (though it is an indirect link
   and not properly posted for commenting), and it appears to be observations
   and not a specific comment for action
   - https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-comment/201709/msg00001.html

Discussion of UBL extension mechanism
 - a request was made offline for a detailed discussion of the design and
   use of extensions at the November 8 teleconference
 - see the current descriptions found in the latest draft:
 - this discussion is deferred until next week

JIRA tickets
   https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972 (note that the view can
   be changed using the box icon at top right; the list view provides the most
   summary information, without the detail view obscuring the screen space)

   - when creating tickets, remember to distinguish the following components
     by how they are described to be used as categories:
     - if you leave the "Component/s" field empty, the ticket will not show up
       in the summary filter

   - status and resolution values:
     - NEW - the issue has been created but not yet agreed to be in
             consideration or not for the development distribution
           - in order for the issue to become active work for the committee
             the new ticket must be changed to OPEN or it will not be seen
             in the "to do" filter
           - the other option on a new ticket is to change it to DEFERRED
           - please remember to look at the open filter to ensure visibility:
     - OPEN - the issue is in consideration for the development distribution
            - keep the issue OPEN when assigning to Ken for incorporation
            - please remember to add a comment regarding expectations whenever
              you assign an OPEN ticket to another person for any action
     - RESOLVED + Applied - the issue is incorporated in test but not released
     - RESOLVED + Fixed - the issue is incorporated in a working draft version
     - RESOLVED + Later - the issue is still up for discussion for a future
                          minor revision but not the current development
     - RESOLVED + No Action - considered as no action for any distribution
     - RESOLVED + Cannot Reproduce - considered as no action for distribution
     - APPLIED + Fixed - the issue is included in a public review (record the
                         availability of the disposition once review opened)
     - DEFERRED - the issue is not in consideration for any minor revision
                - please remember to use this when creating new tickets for
                  backwards-incompatible changes
    - see also the discussion on the status workflows here:

   - members please note to discuss ticket issues as comments to the ticket so
     that we can audit the discussion when making decisions about the ticket,
     without having to find the discussion on the main mail list

   - to find all of the OASIS TC Administration tickets related to UBL, use
     the https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13070 filter


  2018-01-09/10 - Fremantle, Australia
                - focus is on the early developments of 2.3, and anything
                  needed for finalizing 2.2 (which should already be done)
                - a welcome BBQ is planned for the afternoon of January 8


  2017-11-01 Atlantic teleconference 15:00UTC/16:00CET/11:00EDT
  2017-11-08 Atlantic teleconference 15:00UTC/16:00CET/10:00EST
  2017-11-15 Atlantic teleconference 15:00UTC/16:00CET/10:00EST
  2017-11-22 Atlantic teleconference 15:00UTC/16:00CET/10:00EST
  2017-11-29 Atlantic teleconference 15:00UTC/16:00CET/10:00EST

  Next Pacific call meetings:
   CCYY-MM-DD Pacific 02:00UTC/21:00EST - November to March
   CCYY-MM-DD Pacific 01:00UTC/21:00EST - April to October
   - these teleconferences are suspended until warranted by attendance

 Will anyone be requesting a leave of absence in the near future?  For
 privacy reasons, this discussion will be kept off of the minutes.

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 - as comes forward

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