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Subject: Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 14 November 2018 15:00UTC
Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 14 November 2018 15:00UTC
ATTENDANCE
Oriol BausÃ
Kenneth Bengtsson
Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
Peter Borresen
Kees Duvekot
CÃcile Guasch
Olli Pajari
Pacific call attendance
Kenneth Bengtsson
Martijn van den Boogaard
G. Ken Holman (convener)
Andrew Mitchell
Levine Naidoo
Steve Ryan
REFERENCING THE SPECIFICATION
- one of the following should be used as a specific citation:
OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.2
OASIS Universal Business Language (UBL) v2.1 (ISO/IEC 19845:2015)
- the following would be used for a general (any version) citation:
OASIS UBL (ISO/IEC 19845)
- the canonical 2.2 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/
- the canonical 2.1 documents are available in the OASIS repository:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/
- the ISO/IEC catalogue entry for UBL 2.1 is found at:
http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm/?csnumber=66370
- the ISO/IEC document and attachments for UBL 2.1 are found at:
http://standards.iso.org/ittf/PubliclyAvailableStandards/
STANDING ITEMS
Additions to events calendar: http://ubl.xml.org/events
- no new events to add at this time
Review of Pacific call minutes
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201811/msg00009.html
Review of Atlantic call minutes
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201811/msg00005.html
Membership status review
https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/tc-process#membership
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=ubl
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ubl/members/roster.php?num_items=80
- voting status is determined by the following:
- existing voting members must not miss two consecutive meetings to
maintain voting status
- non-voting members must attend two consecutive meetings to obtain
voting status
- members formally on leave by prior request must not attend and
their voting status is not impacted
- current UBL TC voting member list (alphabetical) and relationships:
- Todd Albers
- Member ASC X9 AB, Member ISO 20022 Payment SEG, Member W3C Web
Payments Interest Group, Business Payments Coalition
- Oriol Bausà Peris
- Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML, Editor TC434 Validation
- Kenneth Bengtsson
- Chair OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, DK Expert UN/CEFACT
- Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
- Member OASIS BDXR, Member OASIS ebXML Core & MS
- Member CEN/TC434/WS8
- Peter Borresen
- DK Member CEN/TC440, Assistant Convenor CEN/TC440/WG7
- Kees Duvekot
- Member OASIS BDXR, Member of the StandaardisatieÂplatform
e-factureren
- CÃcile Guasch
- Member CEN/TC440, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG1, Convenor CEN/TC440/WG2,
European Commission liaison (DIGIT Interoperability Unit)
- G. Ken Holman
- Member OASIS BDXR, CA Member JTC 1/SC32, CA Expert UN/CEFACT
- Ole EllerbÃk Madsen
- DK Member CEN/TC440, CEN/TC440 Liaison JTC 1/SC 32
- Andrew Mitchell
- Olli Pajari
- Enric Staromiejski Torregrosa
- Member OASIS ebXML, European Commission liaison (DG GROWTH)
- Matt Vickers, Xero
- Member OASIS BDXR, Member US Business Payments Coalition,
Director US Data Coalition
- active non-voting members
- Martijn van den Boogaard
- Roberto Cisternino
- IT Expert UN/CEFACT
- Matt Lewis
- Member Blockchain Association of Australia
- Levine Naidoo
- Member OASIS BDXR, Observer OASIS ebXML, Member Fintech Australia
- Steve Ryan
- members gaining voting status after this meeting:
- Levine Naidoo
- members approaching losing voting status after this meeting:
- Erlend Klakegg Bergheim
- Kees Duvekot
- Olli Pajari
- members approaching gaining voting status after next meeting:
- Martijn van den Boogaard
- new member orientation information:
https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=59647
UBL 2.2
- UBL 2.2 OASIS Standard is published:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.2/UBL-2.2.html
- Ken to begin the ISO revision process for ISO/IEC 19845
- awaiting feedback from OASIS legal counsel
- Ken has contacted Paul Thorpe regarding his availability to help
with the creation of ASN.1 artefacts for UBL 2.2 ... this is what
we did with his help for UBL 2.1:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/UBL-2.1-ASN.1/v1.0/UBL-2.1-ASN.1-v1.0.html
UBL 2.3
- a posting has been made to the mail archives so that it can be cited
in other correspondence:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201702/msg00006.html
- CÃcile managing requirements for pre-award documents
- Kees managing requirements for post-award documents
- Peter managing requirements for transportation documents
- Kenneth and Todd managing requirements for
payments and finance documents
- Roberto managing requirements for party information documents
- Kees designated a co-editor of UBL 2.3 and is now in charge of the
production of the artefacts, with the assistance from Erlend as needed
- please progress unaddressed JIRA tickets,
especially the ones from UBL 2.2
- reminder about the calendar for UBL 2.3:
- working drafts at the end of 2018
- final OASIS Standard at the end of 2019
- final ISO Standard at the end of 2020
- remember to become watchers of a ticket in order to get push
notifications ... for example with the ticket number in ###:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL-###
- open issues at: https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972
UBL Australian Localisation Subcommittee (ALSC)
- significant progress made comparing UBL Invoice with EANCOM and GS1 XML
- expect soon to be drafting a committee note
UBL Payments and Finance Subcommittee (PayFin)
- productive subcommittee meeting last week laying out plans for 2.3
- tradeable invoice
- alignment to 20022
- letter of credit -> Peter is preparing a stylesheet for actively testing a UBL Letter of Credit document.
UBL Post-award
- nothing to report at this time
UBL Pre-award
- in contact with Turkey and European Commission, who will send additional requirements for new document 2.3
UBL Small Business Subcommittee (SBSC)
- a revised subcommittee charter has been posted for TC members to
consider and agree to change
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201811/msg00004.html
- AGREED - unanimous by those present at today's meeting
UBL Transportation Subcommittee (TSC)
- Meeting was held earlier today with lack of participation. More active participation needed by members of the group.
UBL Naming and Design Rules Subcommittee (NDRSC)
- a Draft-07 version of a JSON Schema validator still has not been
found to test newly-generated artefacts
- the NDR subcommittee is reviewing the latest revisions put forward
by Ken:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-ndrsc/201811/msg00000.html
JIRA tickets
- available filters:
- UBL 2.x - https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972
- BDNDR - https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13472
- All UBL - https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=11670
- TCAdmin - https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13070
- when creating tickets, remember to distinguish the following components
by how they are described to be used as categories:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/UBL/?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:components-panel
- if you leave the "Component/s" field
empty, the ticket will not show up
in the summary filter
- status and resolution values:
- NEW - the issue has been created but not yet agreed to be in
consideration or not for the development distribution
- in order for the issue to become active work for the committee
the new ticket must be changed to OPEN or it will not be seen
in the "to do" filter
- the other option on a new ticket is to change it to DEFERRED
- please remember to look at the
open filter to ensure visibility:
https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=12972
- OPEN - the issue is in consideration for the development distribution
- keep the issue OPEN when assigning to Ken for incorporation
- please remember to add a comment
regarding expectations whenever
you assign an OPEN ticket to another person for any action
- RESOLVED + Incomplete - the issue has
been decided but not yet in test
- RESOLVED + Applied - the issue is
incorporated in test but not released
- RESOLVED + Fixed - the issue is
incorporated in a working draft version
- RESOLVED + Later - the issue is still up for discussion for a future
minor revision but not the current development
- RESOLVED + No Action - considered as no action for any distribution
- RESOLVED + Cannot Reproduce -
considered as no action for distribution
- APPLIED + Fixed - the issue is included
in a public review (record the
availability of the disposition once review opened)
- DEFERRED - the issue is not in consideration for any minor revision
- please remember to use this when creating new tickets for
backwards-incompatible changes
- see also the discussion on the status workflows here:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201709/msg00000.html
- members please note to discuss ticket
issues as comments to the ticket so
that we can audit the discussion when
making decisions about the ticket,
without having to find the discussion on the main mail list
- to find all of the OASIS TC Administration tickets related to UBL, use
the https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?filter=13070 filter
SUBCOMMITTEE CONFERENCE CALLS
- Australian Localisation Subcommittee will
be meeting in the BDXR "off weeks"
one hour in advance of the UBL Pacific call (00:00UTC)
- Transportation Subcommittee will be meeting on Wednesdays every week at
14:00UTC (will be using Peter's GotoMeeting facility), perhaps additional ad hoc meetings will be scheduled to catch up with backlog
- other subcommittees will be meeting on an as-required basis
FACE-TO-FACE
- if we had a face-to-face the week of 2019-09-23 then attendees could
continue on to Vienna for the Exchange Summit conference the following
week (as was convenient for some members in 2018)
- offers to host from Zwolle (NL), Copenhagen (DK), Lisbon (PT)
- do we need a face-to-face in the southern US in February/March? If so,
who do we know who could host us or sponsor a meeting venue?
- this would be timed after the end of our first review so that we can
work on a second review
TC CONFERENCE CALL SCHEDULE
2018-11-21 UBL Pacific -
19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
2018-11-21 UBL Atlantic -
09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2018-11-28 UBL Pacific -
19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
2018-11-28 UBL Atlantic -
09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2018-12-05 UBL Pacific -
19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
2018-12-05 UBL Atlantic -
09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2018-12-12 UBL Pacific -
19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
2018-12-12 UBL Atlantic -
09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2018-12-19 UBL Pacific -
19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
2018-12-19 UBL Atlantic -
09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
2019-01-09 UBL Pacific -
19:00MSP/20:00Lima/20:00Ottawa/01:00UTC/12:00Sydney
2019-01-09 UBL Atlantic -
09:00MSP/10:00Lima/10:00Ottawa/15:00UTC/16:00Europe
Notes regarding teleconference times:
- meeting times are going to be juggling around for some members the next
two weeks:
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201802/msg00000.html
Will anyone be requesting a leave of absence in the near future? For
privacy reasons, this discussion will be kept off of the minutes.
TC calendar:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/calendar.php?wg_abbrev=ubl
TC calendar iCal subscription link:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup_feeds/ical/my_vcalendar.ics?token=fa658a7994a6cefb10c10be09e139af3&workgroup_id=50
OTHER BUSINESS
- Proposal to create subcommittees to address requirements from specific industrial sectors. Issued being raised: Participation and if such subcommittees would be able to produce input that is "sector agnostic". Discussion to be continued next week.
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