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Subject: Re: [uoml-discuss] Proposed UOML TC IPR Policy


Dear Alex,

thank you for this information. Let's move forward then. I personnaly do
not have any other comments at this point of the process.

Regards,

Charles-H.Schulz.

Wang Donglin a ¨¦crit :
> Charles Schulz,
> I have discussed IP policy with OASIS for many times, including their CEO when he visited our company. This is the best way we can find.
> SurXML should be deleted from the UOML document. It is a kind of binary XML format like BinXML, used as storage format for SEP docbase. UOML has no relation to SurXML.
> 	
> -Alex
>
>   
>> Dear Alex,
>>
>> Alex Wang a écrit :
>>     
>>> Sure, UOML must  have an open distribution mode. In fact, unlike other
>>> RAND mode, the RAND mode of UOML is almost like RF mode, with only
>>> little difference.  For all application provider who call UOML, it's
>>> totally free; for docbase provider who implement UOML, charge fix
>>> percentage of the revenue in total. That means, only charge rational fee
>>> from vendors who directly make money from UOML, total amount of these
>>> vendors will be less than 10 all over the world. For other 99.99%
>>> vendors, UOML is free.
>>>   
>>>       
>> Well, I'm not expressing the views of the OASIS here; I was only
>> pointing out that the OASIS has some specific rules about distribution
>> mode, so it may be good to have a look at them or have somebody from the
>> OASIS telling us what the policy should be on this matter.
>>     
>>> Charles: have you studied UOML document? Can it be expressed by
>>> LegalXML?
>>>   
>>>       
>> I have browsed it and I actually have some questions on the engine level
>> that seems to use "SurXML". Could you please update us on this (or tell
>> me if I got that wrong :-) )...
>> I am not an expert of LegalXML, but given that UOML is used by
>> applications that run on top of practically every kind of DocBase
>> system, it should be possible. Unless of course LegalXML has already
>> included this kind of data extraction, managment and printing that UOML
>> is supposed to handle.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Charles.
>>     
>>> Alex
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Charles Schulz [mailto:charles-h.schulz@arsaperta.com] 
>>> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 11:13 PM
>>> To: uoml-discuss@lists.oasis-open.or
>>> Subject: Re: [uoml-discuss] Proposed UOML TC IPR Policyn
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Pine,
>>>
>>> I'm not familiar with the specifics of the RAND but as far as I know,
>>> UOML needs to have a more open distribution mode than a simple RAND in
>>> order to properly called an Open Standard. I may be wrong though; but I
>>> was under the impression that ODF doesn't come with an RAND attached.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Charles-H.Schulz.
>>>
>>> pine zhang a écrit :
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Dear all:
>>>>
>>>> By this week, there is a proposed subject of UOM IPR Policy, while 
>>>> welcome all of you have the comments on it.
>>>>
>>>> *Proposed UOML TC** **IPR Policy** *
>>>>
>>>> [Specification of the IPR Mode under which the TC will operate.]
>>>>
>>>> RAND Mode:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Except where a Licensee has a separate, signed agreement under 
>>>> which the Essential Claims are licensed to such Licensee on more 
>>>> favorable terms and conditions than set forth in this section (in 
>>>> which case such separate signed agreement shall supersede this Limited
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Patent License), each Obligated Party in this TC hereby covenants 
>>>> that, it will grant to any complete conforms of calling UOML standard:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> a nonexclusive, worldwide, non-sublicensable, perpetual patent license
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> (or an equivalent non-assertion covenant) under its Essential Claims 
>>>> covered by its Contribution Obligations or Participation Obligations 
>>>> without payment of royalties or fees, to make, have made, use, market,
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> import, offer to sell, and sell, and to otherwise distribute Licensed 
>>>> Products directly or indirectly that implement such specification. 
>>>> Such license need not extend to features of a Licensed Product that 
>>>> are not required to comply with the Normative Portions of such 
>>>> specification. For the sake of clarity, the rights set forth above 
>>>> include the right to directly or indirectly authorize a third party to
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> make unmodified copies of the Licensee's Licensed Products and to 
>>>> license (optionally under the third party's license) the Licensee's 
>>>> Licensed Products, within the scope of, and subject to the terms of, 
>>>> the Obligated Party's license.
>>>>
>>>> *2. *Any Docbase providers, i.e. makers of software which implements 
>>>> UOML, shall be charged a fix percentage of the revenue generated by 
>>>> adopting UOML in total, as the authorized expenses for all correlation
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> patents, regardless the mount of the patent involved. **
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Pine
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>   
>>>       
>> -- 
>> Charles-H.Schulz,
>> Associ?/ Associate,
>> Ars Aperta.
>>
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-- 
Charles-H.Schulz,
Associ¨¦ / Associate,
Ars Aperta.



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