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Subject: RE: [ws-calendar] Streams namespaces


Oh, and as there is no Schema in the PIM, we can’t inherit from that….

 

 

The UID uses the xcal:textType. Should we declare, as a matter of form, that the PSMs use standard XSD types for all? Doesn’t work for Duration.

 

tc

 


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Toby Considine
TC9, Inc

OASIS TC Chair: oBIX & WS-Calendar

OASIS TC Editor: EMIX, Energy Interoperation

SGIP Smart Grid Architecture Committee

  

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From: ws-calendar@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:ws-calendar@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Toby Considine
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 4:57 PM
To: 'William Cox'; Toby Considine; WS-Calendar TC List
Subject: RE: [ws-calendar] Streams namespaces

 

The correct namespace is on the front page. Line 72 that you identify is an artifact of editing.

 

The more critical issue is what to do generally with the name-spaces and schemas. This question is under several that you noted in your posting of [4:17]

 

For example, you ask about the StreamsBaseType.

 

In WS-Calendar speak, StreamsBaseType is the artifact that ACTS AS a Gluon for inheritance by the Intervals in the Stream Sequence

 

-          Should it inherit from Gluon?

-          Should it be an instance of GluonType?

 

I think no to both. Streams is clearly a PSM as is WS-Calendar, and each is conformant with the PIM.

 

Right now, StreamsBaseType is an empty [abstract] element that inherits from nothing, although the documentation could be clearer.

 

 

tc

 

 

 


"If something is not worth doing, it`s not worth doing well "    -- Peter Drucker


Toby Considine
TC9, Inc

OASIS TC Chair: oBIX & WS-Calendar

OASIS TC Editor: EMIX, Energy Interoperation

SGIP Smart Grid Architecture Committee

  

Email: Toby.Considine@gmail.com
Phone: (919)619-2104

http://www.tcnine.com
blog: http://www.NewDaedalus.com

 

From: ws-calendar@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:ws-calendar@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of William Cox
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 4:22 PM
To: Toby Considine; WS-Calendar TC List
Subject: [ws-calendar] Streams namespaces

 

Calling out the namespace question separately (from line 72 below in detailed comments):

It's clear that ...energyinterop is the wrong namespace.

Should this be in the WS-Calendar/xCal URN space? In the OASIS namespace? Both?

Resolving URNs continues to be a black art; resolving URIs in URL form (http scheme) is easier, and makes it easier to find the namespace description in OASIS' administrative approach.

So it needs to change.

To what?

Thanks!

bill
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On 5/16/13 4:17 PM, William Cox wrote:

Toby --

So the real question is what in the PIM is the base class for any of the "new" classes. Is this a PSM? Should I look at the XSD?

Comments referenced to wd03 pdf:

  • The use of StreamBaseType is not clear to me. How does this relate to PIM and WS-Calendar?
  • Copyright should be 2012-2013...but TCAdmin will do that as needed.
  • Bookmark not defined in the TOC
  • No brackets around line 2
  • line 4 : "will benefit" should be "benefit"?
  • Not a biggie, but I don't hyphenate "time series"
  • line 72 Why is namespace ...ns/energyinterop ? shouldn't it be in ws-calendar? or one of the URNs? see strm on line 78.
  • line 78 Is WSDL important?
  • line 109 - mixing quote of WS-Calendar? WS-Calendar as quoted by PIM? I think they're the same. Should the reference on line 115 be to WS-Calendar or PIM?
  • line 116 is this section normative?
  • line 128 caption uses "WS-Calendar Partition" but it's not in the definitions in the previous section. It's in WS-Calendar at 202 and PIM at 84. I assume that since it's key to line 161, that it should be defined in the tables not just in an example caption. So insert definition in table 2-1.
  • Line 114 table does not say non-normative but line 143 does.
  • 214 "Market Signal Payload"? - change to "Payload" assuming properly defined. Yes it is in table 3-1.
  • 215 is the order required to reflect temporal order, e.g. sorting by start times? If a partition that seems implicit but could be explicit.
  • line 109: I think the model needs to be different; in PIM the "related-to" is not "RelatedToPropType", it's RelationLink[Type]. Is that a suggestion to change the PIM type to RelationLinkType in parallel with GluonType?  Good suggestion.
  • Not sure how the ArrayOf types reflect in PIM - it's more an XSD concept as I recall. We need to talk.
  • StreamPayloadBase is not in the document text; viz. figure at 199.
  • l203 seems a carryover from WS-Calendar Streams, rather than PIM-based. What is "conformant communications"? Sounds like a carryover from WS-Calendar as WS message content?
  • 210 MAY NOT could probably be MUST NOT?  or is the intent MAY but SHOULDN"T? In which case SHOULD NOT is appropriate. MAY NOT is not in RFC2119.
  • PIM DOESN'T HAVE UIDs - PUT IN NON-EXISTENT JIRA COMPONENT
  • PIM UIDs (if included) may simplify section 3.x
  • 257 didn't we have confidence, or did we put it into the payload?
  • I'd like a nice compact example of observational data in l226ff. Possible non-normative appendix?
  • l247 what is the "service Context"? is that line 173? Is it defined?

In general seems much clearer and cleaner.

Thanks!

bill

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