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Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Technical Webinar abstract

Hi Dee,
Please give us another week to finalize this abstract.  We are going to review this with the full TC, and also discuss with two other volunteer presenters on our next call.  We also want to plan another webinar that would be directed more to users of BPEL - a business analyst or CIO audience, that would talk about the business problems BPEL can solve, how it fits in a overall BPM solution, etc.  We'd like to hold them both in the same timeframe directed at different people, rather than sequencing them.  

We've also started discussing the other possibilities you've brought up and there is interest in some.  Given workload to get through approval, we're prioritizing these behind the webinars.  I would advise against attempting to discuss the future of BPEL at this point of time under the auspices of OASIS or the TC.  While there are many possibilities, anything said at this point in time would be strictly individual opinions, not the sense of the TC.  Discussions in the context of an event where the TC is the "speaker" could be misinterpreted.  I think at this time the TC should focus on how to best use what we have rather than pointing to what else could be done and conjecturing on how those additional requirements should be addressed,  I'm sure those discussions will occur in other venues.

Regards, Diane
IBM  Emerging Internet Software Standards
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"dschur" <dee.schur@oasis-open.org>

01/24/2007 02:23 PM

"'Frank Ryan'" <frank.ryan@active-endpoints.com>, <wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org>
"'Carol Geyer'" <carol.geyer@oasis-open.org>, "'Peter Roden'" <peter.roden@oasis-open.org>
RE: [wsbpel] Technical Webinar abstract

Thank you Frank!
I know that you are all 6 feet under trying to get through the IPR transition and Standards processes but I’ll mention a few topics that I would like to see referenced in one of the webinars but it will take some noodling.
Now that you have all invested so much time and effort in this body of work, what are the steps that we must take to drive traction in the marketplace? This might make your marketing folks happy. The OASIS staff has taken a hard look at successful standards and we have realized that our work does not end when the standard is completed. In fact, it is absolutely imperative that we, if you will, ‘create the market’ for future uptake that produces implementations and market buy-in. More implementations generate more ‘fixes’ and eventually a better, more usable standard. The OASIS staff refers to this model of development as the ‘Standards Lifecycle.’ First, a need is identified, a solution(s) is developed, the completed solution (standard) becomes widely used (adopted) which creates more need in the marketplace, right?
Many things drive adoption. Our first step is the webinars, then some sort of public demonstration, an XML.org Focus Area (see http://dita.xml.org/), white papers, certification, etc. Some TCs have created an Adoption TC or SC for this purpose which can involve TC members but also the marketing people from your company and end users. I suspect that we will see end users, even on the first webinar, which is great for the WSBPEL OASIS Standard!
I’d like to see something mentioned about the future of WSBPEL in the webinars, is this a possibility?
Thanks for allowing me to join you today!

Dee Schur
Member Support

OASIS Symposium:
"eBusiness and Open Standards:
Understanding the Facts, Fiction, and Future"
15-18 April 2007 San Diego, CA USA


From: Frank Ryan [mailto:frank.ryan@active-endpoints.com]
Wednesday, January 24, 2007 9:55 AM
[wsbpel] Technical Webinar abstract

Here are my suggestions.  Any feedback on missing/included topics and or format is appreciated.
Thanks to Dieter for the presentations he sent I think they are very complete and a great start.
A technical introduction to WS-BPEL 2.0
Who should attend? Developers, architects interested in gaining an understanding of the architectural concepts on which BPEL is based.
What will be covered?
How BPEL fits with web services standards
Differences between executable and abstract processes
Overview of language constructs used to create executable BPEL processes
Advanced features including
            Partner links
            Event Handlers
            Fault Handlers
Changes from BPEL4WS 1.1
Status of the specification

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