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Subject: RE: [wsrp-markup] [wsrp][markup] Minutes for 7/10/02 conference call


is the action handler allowed to modify the client request parameters before they are passed to the markup handler ?
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Freedman [mailto:Michael.Freedman@oracle.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 5:18 PM
Cc: WSRP-Markup
Subject: Re: [wsrp-markup] [wsrp][markup] Minutes for 7/10/02 conference call

Chris,
  To answer your question:
This seems like something the interfaces subcommittee will need to decide.  If you guys decide that this is a required part of the protocol then the url rewriting will have to incorporate some kind of mechanism to indicate to the consumer what path to take.  Has this been discussed in the interface subcommittee yet?
 We discussed this today.  The summary is that we are fine in supporting the semantics defined by the JSR.  Namely [excerpted from Alejandro's message]:
There are two types of URLs, action URLs and URLs with no action. An
action URL will invoke the action handler and then the markup handler.
An URL with no action will invoke only the markup handler.

Both the action handler and the markup handler receive the client
request parameters. So in both cases (action or non-action URLs) the
markup handler receives the client request parameters.

Rich/Carsten will include in a future draft.  As they specify the details they will get back to us if issues/questions arise.
     -Mike-

Chris Braun wrote:

Mike, Well the sad thing is that I can't explain it, I have to admit I was a bit confused on the call.  The more that I think about it, it seems that in order to incorporate this functionality the WSRP interface protocol would need to allow for this.  The consumer would probably need to determine weather the action should be sent to the producer or simply a getMarkup call along with the parameters. This seems like something the interfaces subcomittee will need to decide.  If you guys decide that this is a required part of the protocol then the url rewriting will have to incorporate some kind of mechanism to indicate to the consumer what path to take.  Has this been discussed in the interface subcommittee yet? Chris
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [wsrp-markup] [wsrp][markup] Minutes for 7/10/02 conference call
 Chris,
   Sorry I missed the call this week.  Can you explain why:
 JSR 168 has the notion of action URLs and render URLs.  An action URL causes an entity to execute its process phase.  By allowing two types of actions the entity can bypass the action phase and allow for the render phase to receive the action parameters.  There is probably nothing that needs to be added to the WSRP protocol to address this.  The producer container will be able to handle this transparently.
   How does the container/portal determine whether to call the action method vs. the render method if there isn't an indication in the originating URL?  I.e. how is this handled transparently?  Are we expecting the JSR to encode this information in "query string" parameters - hence its opaque to us?
      -Mike-
 


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