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Subject: FYI: ongoing discussion on OData, Cloud and privacy aspects on OData ML

I think the below discussion might be relevant for our group too...

Best Regards,

----- Forwarded message from neil.mcevoy@ifossfoundation.org -----
    Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 06:18:15 -0400
    From: Neil McEvoy <neil.mcevoy@ifossfoundation.org>
 Subject: Re: [odata] Basic OData question
      To: Michael Pizzo <mikep@microsoft.com>
      Cc: "odata@lists.oasis-open.org" <odata@lists.oasis-open.org>

Got it! Thanks so much.

I had a crack at promoting it to a broader audience, and to also identify
where it may fit into another OASIS group I'm helping start: 'PACR' - For
Government Cloud Computing.

As you know Open Data is a huge topic for the public sector, and my goal is
to identify the overlap between Cloud and Open Data.

E.g. "OData Cloud Security" - For using it for enabling citizen access to
government archives:



On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 12:18 AM, Michael Pizzo <mikep@microsoft.com> wrote:

 Correct; OData is a RESTful API, not just publishing files, and enables
(but does not mandate) writability against services that choose to support
writing data. It may also be useful to authorize users in the case of
read-only access, for example, to customize data views based on user.

OData does not define a separate auth mechanism, but leverages existing
authorization/authentication mechanisms. It is in the charter of the OData
TC to give guidance as far as authorization/authentication for OData

You can read more about OData and current Authentication practices here:


*From:* Neil McEvoy [neil.mcevoy@ifossfoundation.org]
*Sent:* Sunday, October 07, 2012 2:21 AM
*To:* Michael Pizzo
*Cc:* odata@lists.oasis-open.org
*Subject:* Re: [odata] Basic OData question

  Thanks Michael.

 Yes I do have one main question. As I understand it, to date Open Data
has been a process where the owners of the data extract and publish it from
a legacy system, to some kind of file. Along with the open licence the
developer can then take that data file and use it with a new app.

 In contrast it seems that OData is more about an API to live data, still
in its original source, achieved via RESTful methods? This would have
obvious improved benefits, not least the ability to Write as well as Read?

 If this is the case would it also embed the ability to handle
authorization? I.e. if external parties are given the ability to update
live data this would present security and access control requirements?

 Kind regards, Neil.

On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 12:08 AM, Michael Pizzo <mikep@microsoft.com>wrote:

 Yes, OData is short for "Open Data Protocol". It is "Open" because it
was designed through an open process and open license, but also because it
opens silos of data to the web. And it is a protocol; based on REST
principles, it defines conventions, rules, and formats for exchanging data
on the web.****


More information on odata can be found at http://www.odata.org. There is
also a nice write-up recently here:


Let me know if you need any more information.****





*From:* odata@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:odata@lists.oasis-open.org] *On
Behalf Of *Neil McEvoy
*Sent:* Saturday, October 6, 2012 9:09 AM
*To:* odata@lists.oasis-open.org
*Subject:* [odata] Basic OData question****


Hi folks****


New to the group so please excuse the newbie question.****


Basically my question is that I previous thought of Open Data as being
about the licence - It's made open by the appropriate licence to use it.*


However OData seems to be more of a programmatic design of data access? *


Neil McEvoy
VP Business Development

Neil McEvoy
VP Business Development

Neil McEvoy
VP Business Development

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