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Subject: XLIFF Inline Markup Subcommittee Teleconference - Jan-10-2012


XLIFF Inline Markup Subcommittee Teleconference

Every second Tuesday of every month at 15:00 UTC
7:00am PT, 8:00am MT, 10:00am ET, 11:00 Montevideo,
3:00pm London, 4:00pm Berlin.

Teleconference meeting place:
https://www1.gotomeeting.com/join/408998929
Meeting ID: 408-998-929
You can use the following US phone number, or the VOIP option provided by GoToMeeting:
Dial 630-869-1010
Access Code: 408-998-929

The summary of our main items is here:
http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/OneContentModel/Requirements

Draft is under SVN, here:
http://tools.oasis-open.org/version-control/svn/xliff/trunk/inline-markup/
(this will be replaced by DocBook version)


=== Farewell to Andrew

Andrew is leaving SDL and won't be in the TC/SC any more.
Many thanks for his participation and work.
Hopefully we'll get another representative from SDL soon.


=== Type of codes

Decision on what set of codes to use:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff-inline/201112/msg00015.html

Yves had the action item to create a ballot.
Ballot is here:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff-inline/ballot.php?id=2156



=== Annotations representation
(req 1.5: Must allow to associate spans of content with metadata)

Current proposed representation:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff-inline/201110/msg00013.html

<mrk [id='id'] type='type' [value='some value'] [ref='someId'] [translate='yes|no']>...</mrk>


--- Overlapping mrk:

-> split them and merge them as needed.
May require an attribute to make the distinction between lone consecutive annotations and split annotations.
Yves had the action item to try implementation.
-> Not much progress.


--- annotation with only translate attribute.
What type value to use?
-> 'generic' with only translate attribute allowed in that case.
-> To implement


Yves was to bring the question of schema version 1.1 vs 1.0 to the TC.
-> Done here:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201111/msg00044.html
One answer:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201111/msg00046.html

Yves had the action item to bring the question of the schema back to the TC.
-> Done. Seems the decision is XSD 1.0 + special validation tool


=== What about crc and assoc?

Those are not needed was last meeting consensus.

Yves had the action item to ask to TC if anyone is using crc or assoc and report on current status for those.
-> Done here:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201111/msg00051.html

Consensus would be to just drop then in 2.0.
Yves had the action item to double check presence of assoc.
-> Done did not find any examples.


=== Uniqueness of attribute names (added)

See:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff-inline/201112/msg00001.html

Yves had the action item to escalate the question to TC.
-> Done. Was decided to re-use names by context when needed.


=== Representation of editing hints

Need to have notation for 'permissions'
Current permission we thought about:

1: a code can be deleted
2: a code can be replicated
3: a code can be moved out of its original order
4 (possibly): a code can be moved outside its original parent span

All were to think about representation for hints.

See: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff-inline/201111/msg00008.html

-> seems one attribute per "hint" would be the choice for most.


=== Bi-direction markers

Several tools use Unicode characters in 1.2.
Goes against W3C recommendation but seems common practice.
-> need to know about other tools
-> ask for info to W3C
Sent (but not passed the W3C check yet).

Some reference material:
- http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-bidi-controls
- http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/BidiProposal



=== Codes and effect on segmentation
(req 1.16: Inline codes should have a way to store information about the effect on the segmentation)

Related email:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff-inline/201109/msg00005.html



=== Representation of added codes

Need to clarify use of duplicated code.
e.g. why not re-use same code?
(See http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff-inline/201110/msg00021.html)



=== Any other business


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