Re: Tragedy

[JohnRobert Gardner <John.robert.gardner@sun.com>]

I've replied to the previous "good bye" thread offlist, to wit:

My response had _nothing_ to do with any single post.  Only the plethora
of posts and speculations peppering this list hourly.  No single culprit
and now myself included having to revisit a simple, but I reassert, apt
point: we have work to do. I think the Penrose et al work is just as
valid as any researched document.  

Perhaps if HumanMarkup could include a tag that says "It's not all about
you" or "you--generally speaking, aka vous en francais . . . " 

Please folks, my Ph.D. is in Vedic/Sanskrit.  I empathize about the
passion of the human condition and what we might do, but basic to a
specification, even one for what is "human" is going to ride best on
precision, not passion.  Much as the latter is more lyrical, the former
produces deliverables.

And, again, _none_ of this is directed at any single post.  

Pax.

jr

Kurt Cagle wrote:
> 
> I'd just as soon keep the list going. To put it bluntly, the dead are dead,
> and any goodwill gesture of respect won't really make any difference to
> anyone at this point.
> 
> Concerning the comment that John Gardner raised, I wouldn't necessarily
> dismiss out of hand the sometimes parenthetical discussions that go on. We
> each of us have different priorities with this spec. Len's intent with the
> original spec was largely the encoding of gestural communication, and I
> respect both the integrity of this and the thought put into it; Rex's and
> Paul's commentary likewise have a great deal of merit (everyone's does, come
> to that; Sean brings a relational viewpoint that I sometimes have trouble
> following, but is important nonetheless). I'm something of a gadfly
> myself -- the amount of original innovation I'm likely to produce on this
> list will not be huge (though I think there is merit to some things I've
> said) -- but I do offer a fresh perspective sometimes on issues and will
> occasionally attempt to goad people out of viewpoints that I don't agree
> with. Doesn't always work (and it can piss the hell out of people
> sometimes), but I find that sometimes with a fairly mundane intelligence
> like mine I can still provide an interesting word or three.
> 
> -- Kurt
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sean B. Palmer" <sean@mysterylights.com>
> To: "John Robert Gardner, Architect" <john.robert.gardner@sun.com>
> Cc: "Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@ingr.com>; "Kurt Cagle"
> <kurt@kurtcagle.net>; "Mark Brownell" <gizmotron@earthlink.net>;
> <humanmarkup-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:21 AM
> Subject: Re: Tragedy
> 
> > [...]
> > > An understandable effort at thread subsumption.
> > > Though, in reality, I'm quite certain that more than
> > > mere "miscommunication" led to several jets, multiple
> > > explosions, and multiple deaths . . . . .
> >
> > Yes, I certainly agree with that assumption. I should note further to
> those
> > comments that I'm not in any way judging, condemning, or opposing
> > *anyone's* response to this tragedy... I merely suggest that comments
> about
> > the event be directed to our Yahoogroups list, and that comments about
> > HumanMarkup be directed to humanmarkup-comments. People should feel free
> > certainly at a time like this to continue as they feel is appropriate. I
> > also suggest that it may be a sign of respect if we suspend the
> HumanMarkup
> > project for a couple of days, or however long it takes for us to come to
> > terms with what has happened at least for us to carry on working.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > --
> > Kindest Regards,
> > Sean B. Palmer
> > @prefix : <http://webns.net/roughterms/> .
> > :Sean :hasHomepage <http://purl.org/net/sbp/> .
> >
> >
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