[huml-comment] RE: Human Markup Language 1.0 considered harmful

[Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga <rkthunga@humanmarkup.org>]

Hi Dennis,

Specifically regarding your comments of race:  we are not attempting to
hard-wire a definition of codelists such as "race", but to 1) codeify
current codelists and 2) enable modularized codelists to be able to be
created.

That is the rationale behind the ontologically weak Primary Base Schema
(to allow flexibility and modularity in higher levels).  I hope that
addresses your concerns.

Good to hear your insight.

Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamilton@acm.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 7:01 PM
To: humanmarkup-comment@lists.oasis-open.org
Cc: William Anderson; rkthunga@humanmarkup.org
Subject: Human Markup Language 1.0 considered harmful


When I saw this announcement I thought at first that it was a put-on,
joke, or spoof of some kind.  I really did.

I gather that the Human Markup Language is not a joke.  I am very
concerned. I blogged what I saw and what bothers me as well as I could
at

	
http://nfocentrale.net/orcmid/blog/2002_11_24_lair-chive.asp#85127383

and I would love to have a way to make what I see as the error of this
more clear.

Also, I need to look at the charter for this work.  It is not clear to
me exactly what the intended application of this is and why it has to be
called "human" markup language.  Who does this appeal to?

But, given the document at face value, I am concerned that the assertion
of "nothing taken for granted" and self-assertion as a test of humanity
are at best ingenuous.  My demonstration is the supposition of "race" as
a physical characteristic.  And that it be describable (I hesitate to
use the notion of description at all here) by a code.

-- orcmid

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-----Original Message-----
From: CIO Council XML Working Group (XMLWG)
[mailto:XMLWG@LISTSERV.GSA.GOV]On Behalf Of Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 06:10
To: XMLWG@LISTSERV.GSA.GOV
Subject: [XMLWG] HumanMarkup - Primary Base Specification 1.0 available
for Public Comments


To XML WG members:

I am posting the following announcement, originally posted by Karl Best
of OASIS, regarding the availability of the HumanMarkup Primary Base
Schema 1.0 for public comments.  All persons are very much encouraged to
provide feedback on the specifications during this time period...details
below.

-----
Ranjeeth Kumar Thunga
OASIS HumanMarkup TC - Chair
(917) 494-1684 (m)
rkthunga@humanmarkup.org

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