RE: [oic] ODF 1.1 compatibility / manifest:version in ODF 1.2

["Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>]

I think you have misunderstood what I hope I said.

I believe adding manifest:version as a MANDATORY attribute in ODF 1.2 was a mistake.  There was no consideration that this would be a breaking change for no useful value.  In particular, down-level implementations that actually checked for ODF 1.1 schema validity would fail even though there might be nothing in the package that would be a problem for them.  In fact, implementation of the attribute by ODF 1.2 Producers did not even happen at first.  That might not have bothered their own down-level ODF 1.1 Consumers, but it did bother others.

Furthermore, the ODF Package is meant to be semi-independent from its use to carry ODF Documents.  Adding this association into the package is brittle coupling.  

I stand by my recommendation, whether or not the ODF TC considers an errata for the feature in ODF 1.2 (since it doesn't seem to break any implementation to make it optional except when the package itself is using an ODF 1.2-only feature), whether or not the OIC TC provides an advisory faster than the ODF TC can respond on this matter.

The ODF Specification is not Holy Writ, and all adherence is voluntary.  I wouldn't volunteer for <manifest:manifest> manifest:version.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: oic@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:oic@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Svante Schubert
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 01:55
To: oic@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [oic] ODF 1.1 compatibility / manifest:version in ODF 1.2

On 06.11.2012 18:48, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> Unfortunately, there are folks who think it is a good idea.
Yes, I am still absolute sure, that evolving and extending an existing
standards is a good idea in general and the version attribute a good
idea in special.
But perhaps I misunderstood you here, anyway let us not distract
ourselves it would be the wrong TC anyway and let us now just focus only
on a single aspect. What is the root cause for the given issue?
You mentioned the previous ODF spec is wrong. Can you provide a quote on
the ODF 1.1 part?
I did not find anything justifying the issue among:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.1/OpenDocument-v1.1.html#outline:1.5.Document_Processing_and_Conformance

Thanks,
Svante

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