RE: [smartgrid-discuss] Pricing standards

[David Holmberg <david.holmberg@nist.gov>]

Your (and Jim Luth's) position from the paper:
It is proposed that the Open ADR community lead by the Demand Response
Research Center (DRRC) of Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratories (LBNL)
and supported by the California Energy Commission's (CEC) Public Interest
Energy Research Program (PIER) enter into a partnership with the OPC
Foundation to develop an IEC 62541 OPC UA profile for Demand Response for
industrial systems.   As stated above, this does not include
the discussion of message payloads, but only the messaging
protocols.  After the development of this profile is complete, it is
proposed that the OPC Foundation and LBNL work to get this profile
standardized in IEC TC 57. 

I'm fine with that and defer to LBNL and the I2G group if they want to
use OPC UA in OpenADR. 

David


At 08:45 AM 12/10/2008, John Gillerman wrote:

David,
 
I am new to this group.  Just to provide some background, I am on IEC TC 57 WG 13, 13, 16, and 19. 
 
Your doc mentioned TC 57 so I thought I would forward two things that I think are relevant:
 
1) A recent copy of the IEC 61970 Common Information Model.  This is the data model described in UML that TC 57 uses for enterprise integration.   There is some modeling related to schedules in the CIM. This is an Enterprise Architect file.
2) A recent paper about ADR.  This paper discuses the use of OPC Unified Architecture (OPC UA).  OPC UA is the web services version of the services IEC 61970 specifies for exchanging CIM data.  OPC UA is also known as IEC 62541.  While OPC UA is new, it is likely to be widely supported by industrial control system vendors.  As such it is a good choice for DR related communication with industrial customers.
 
You should know that EPRI and the IEC are beginning to actively work in this area.  We probably want to figure out how things fit together at some point so that we don't end up doing the same thing twice. 
 

Regards,

John Gillerman
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From: David Holmberg [ mailto:david.holmberg@nist.gov]

Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 3:08 PM

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Subject: [smartgrid-discuss] Pricing standards

All,

As part of the discussion on smart grid economics, in addition to schedules is the more general topic of pricing. I have written up some thoughts on what we need to do to move forward on pricing. Part of this is getting some standardized schedule as Toby mentioned. Perhaps a pricing standard will end up in OASIS as well. Does everyone know about the GridEcon meeting being planned for March in Chicago? The plan is to come with a pricing proposal in hand to that meeting, and I believe there is significant work to tackle prior to that time. Your input is appreciated.

David

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