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Subject: Re: [cti] CybOX Containers in STIX


On 29.06.2016 15:25:59, Wunder, John A. wrote:
> Observation: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F1c05GgYaJFV1Z04B8c_T3vEE-LRQTPExF24LvOQAsk/edit#heading=h.b2frlbuolfj
> 

Please remind me why the `cybox` field is optional on a STIX
Observation. Seems like an Observation without a CybOX payload is
pointless.

> 
> Sighting: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F1c05GgYaJFV1Z04B8c_T3vEE-LRQTPExF24LvOQAsk/edit#heading=h.k017w16zutw
> 

Looks good to me.

> Note that everything in the “cybox” key will be defined by the CybOX
> specification. In CybOX, that type is currently defined here:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PSGv6Uvo3YyrK354cH0cvdn7gGedbhYJkgNVzwW9E6A/edit#heading=h.2p8taumnmgqi
> 

If we go with directly embedding CybOX in the STIX Observation, then
that CybOX type definition will have to change. We may do away with
the CybOX Container (née ArgleBargle) altogether but we should still
define in CybOX what are the allowable top-level keys inside of a STIX
Observation's `cybox` field; currently this would be:

  * `objects` => array of type cybox-object (optional)
  * `actions` => array of type cybox-action (optional)

Does everyone agree that what is allowable inside the STIX
Observation's `cybox` field gets defined over in CybOX land?

-- 
Cheers,
Trey
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