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Subject: RE: [docbook-apps] XML editor with a quesiton about the WordML style sheets
Hello, Since this thread has been extended, I would like to ask if anyone has an idea when the WordML to Docbook (vice-versa) style sheets are going to be finalized. I guess this is related to the next style sheet release. Is there some documentation about the concept behind DB to WML/WML to DB and maybe what the limited subset that Steve talks about below? Should I just go look in the source? What is the status of the WordML style sheets in the DocBook CVS? My primary Goal here is to get the documents out of Word and into docbook, but being able to go back and forth sounds very nice. It would be a relief to have a quick and brilliantly thought out, comprehensive way to do this. As far as editors go, XML Mind works fine for me. I have never edited with Oxygen (although I hear that it is excellent). As a writer, when I look for an editor I look for something that allows me to see what I'm going to print (digital or hard copy) and something that allows me to organize what I'm doing before I start writing (for longer documents) and XML Mind has both with the style and tree views. If I am documenting in DocBook, then I want a plain text editor as well so I can modify the code within an xml doc the way I want it. I haven't encountered this feature in XML Mind but this is the only thing I'm really missing and can imagine it wouldn't be necessary for a lot of writers. @ Tomas: do you know if XML Mind can do the same thing with FO customization layers, whether it will read FO layers in real time and use that formatting? That would be very nice. Thanks, Scott ________________________________________ From: Tomas HAJEK [mailto:tomas.hajek@st.com] Sent: 24 October 2005 09:54 To: Supun Gunasena Cc: Steve Ball; tom.kirkpatrick@virusbtn.com; ndecandu@rssd.dsa.int; Thomas, Ludger; DOCBOOK-APPS; Polly Ball Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] XML editor Hi all, I just have to say that XMLMind editor (XXE) is very powerful because of its real-time CSS2 styling. As it provides for many XXE-specific extensions to CSS (like evaluating XPath expression in CSS generated text), one can do real tricks in highlighting the document structure of interest. User can also switch between various styles of view during editing - one particular application which now comes on my XML mind is to use it to highlight DocBook profiling information according to various criteria by text background color. At one time I could choose to highlight according to the "userlevel" attribute, then switch to highlighting according to "os" attribute etc. BTW - haven't anyone already did it? :-) Best regards Tomas Hajek -- _______________________________________________________________________ Tomas Hajek /_________/ Design engineer / ___ __ Integrated Circuits for Car Radio Applications /\ ( / / / /__) \/ / / / /_/ STMicroelectronics IBC Building E-mail: tomas.hajek@st.com Pobrezni 3 Work : +420 222 336 137 186 00 Praha 8 Tina : 139 6137 Czech Republic Fax : +420 222 336 116 _______________________________________________________________________ Supun Gunasena wrote: Hi Steve, Your suggestions sound very interesting. I have been waiting a long time for a Docbook to WordML and WordML to Docbook stylsheet, or editor that can do this. I would love for someone to bring out a Docbook editor which is similar to Word. Right now, I am using XML Mind as my front end editor and other technical writers are finding it very frustrating to use. It is very similar to Word-Perfect back in the day! Please keep me informed on your latest developments with this front-end editor and stylesheets. Thanks and regards Supun Gunasena Technical Writer Orion Systems International Excellence in Health Innovation Skype: skypeID Phone: +64 9 6380600 Fax: +64 9 6380699 Email: Supun.Gunasena@orionhealth.com 2nd Floor, Orion House, cnr Enfield & Mary St, Mt Eden, PO Box 8273, Auckland, New Zealand. http://www.orionhealth.com This e-mail and any attachments are intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain privileged, proprietary, or other data protected from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the addressee or the person responsible for delivering this to the addressee you are hereby notified that reading, copying or distributing this transmission is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please telephone us immediately and remove all copies of it from your system. Thank you for your co-operation. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Ball [mailto:Steve.Ball@explain.com.au] Sent: Friday, 30 September 2005 10:18 a.m. To: tom.kirkpatrick@virusbtn.com; ndecandu@rssd.dsa.int Cc: Thomas, Ludger; DOCBOOK-APPS; Polly Ball Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] XML editor Why not use MS Word as the front-end editor to your DocBook authoring system? Bob Stayton and I have been working on a series of XSL stylesheets that allow roundtripping of DocBook documents through Word (or Apple's Pages). That is, a stylesheet transforms a DocBook document into WordML (the XML format for MS Word 2003), and then another set of stylesheets transforms WordML back into DocBook. These transformations can be done without loss of information, but only for a limited subset of DocBook (even more limited than Simplified DocBook). However, for simple documents I believe this is sufficient for many authors. I'm planning on these stylesheets shipping with the next DocBook XSL stylesheet distribution. My company is also working on applications and tools to support use of these stylesheets, such as producing HTML and PDF from freshly-authored DocBook - contact me for further details if you're interested. HTHs, Steve Ball --- Steve Ball | XSLT Standard Library | Training & Seminars Explain | Web Tcl Complete | XML XSL Schemas http://www.explain.com.au/ | TclXML TclDOM | Tcl, Web Development Steve.Ball@explain.com.au +---------------------------+--------------------- Ph. +61 2 6242 4099 | Mobile (0413) 594 462 | Fax +61 2 6242 4099 On 30/09/2005, at 1:43 AM, tom.kirkpatrick@virusbtn.com wrote: I too am on the look out for a Docbook editor. My requirement is that our editors - who know nothing of Docbook, need to be able to create and edit Docbook documents as if they were typing a word document... ie. easily... really easy -- Tom Kirkpatrick Web Developer - Virus Bulletin On 30/09/2005, Nicola de Candussio <ndecandu@rssd.esa.int> wrote: Hi all, I am looking around for a XML editor able to provide some docbook oriented features (such as the html or pdf creation ), the editor should be oriented more to authors then developers. Could you suggest me any good editor ? Cheers Nicola
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