RE: [ebxml-bp] Comments on NameID/IDRef and UID and Late Binding and Document References

["Dale Moberg" <dmoberg@cyclonecommerce.com>]

If software uses both CPA and BPSS to determine the runtime values to
enforce, the behavior is basically like John describes.
The CPPA contains the actual values to be used that either match or
override (some of) the BPSS defined values.

The runtime software would then make use of the values loaded from the
CPA. 

Also, during CPA formation, negotiation, and acceptance, software could
alert the operator that the values override the implicitly referenced
values found in the BPSS instance so that is explicitly acknowledged.
This would not technically be chasing literal references to elements in
the BPSS instance found in the CPA. The software would know which
attribute values in the BPSS instance are qualified by the
BusinessTransactionCharacteristics/@[attributes] by making use of the
ActionContext information. This ActionContext information allows the
XXXPartyActionBinding to be hooked back up with the right BP segment,
and find the attributes being qualified. ActionContext is not, however,
a literal xlink href (as is used elsewhere for references into BPSS
instances).





-----Original Message-----
From: Yunker, John [mailto:yunker@amazon.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 4:16 PM
To: David RR Webber; Monica J. Martin
Cc: Dale Moberg; martin.me.roberts@bt.com; ebxml-bp@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [ebxml-bp] Comments on NameID/IDRef and UID and Late
Binding and Document References


My understanding was that the CPA can "override" BPSS values, but BPSS
can function independent of a CPA, thus the BPSS does not reference the
CPA - rather once a BPSS is "loaded" the CPA is allowed to override
specific values in the BPSS.  In both cases the CPA is referencing the
BPSS, 1) reference to select the appropriate BPSS; 2) reference to
override configurable values.

Dale?

John

-----Original Message-----
From: David RR Webber [mailto:david@drrw.info] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 1:11 PM
To: Monica J. Martin
Cc: Dale Moberg; martin.me.roberts@bt.com; ebxml-bp@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [ebxml-bp] Comments on NameID/IDRef and UID and Late
Binding and Document References


Monica,

My understanding is that the BPSS also draws
the messaging control factors and details from
the CPA.  So in effect - the CPPA selects
the BPSS, but the BPSS engine needs to
reference both together.

Thanks, DW.

>
> mm1: Dave, the CPPA references the BPSS instance used, rather than the

> other way around.
> 
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