Re: [egov] OASIS E-GOV TC : ebXML Messaging BALLOT RESULT

[jon.bosak@sun.com]

I didn't vote on Graham's paper because I was taking time off from
email to recover from a long trip and assumed that it would meet
with no opposition -- an assumption that turned out to be correct.
I would guess that I was not alone in this.

The problem here lies not with the vote (which was obviously a
vote to approve the document -- 15 to 0 is a pretty clear
decision) but rather with the criterion used to establish the
outcome.  This was a decision calling for a simple majority, which
is defined as a majority *of those voting*.  By this criterion,
the question passed.

Instead, we appear to be requiring a majority of the entire group
to make a decision, which is quite unusual in a normal
parliamentary process such as the one we are supposed to be using
(Robert's) and is contrary to the process that would be used if we
were meeting in person.

I suggest that we declare this document approved and move on.

Jon

   From: John.Borras@e-Envoy.gsi.gov.uk
   Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 16:04:44 +0000

   It is with great regret that I have to tell you that  we did not reach 
   quorum on the recent ballot on Graham Beaver's document.  Only 15 out of 
   41 members took the time to vote.   I won't name and shame those who 
   didn't vote.

   This I find deeply disappointing, firstly for Graham and the excellent 
   effort he put into the document, and secondly for the future of our TC. 
   This was our first ballot and we fell at the first hurdle.  That doesn't 
   inspire confidence for our future work.   Hopefully this will turn out to 
   be just teething troubles and once we all get the hang of voting then 
   we'll be OK in future.   If not well.......

   I'm going to re-run this ballot and also put up a ballot on Eliot's 
   Interoperability Services paper.   Please take the time to vote this time. 


   John

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   <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">It is with great regret that I have
   to tell you that &nbsp;we did not reach quorum on the recent ballot on
   Graham Beaver's document. &nbsp;Only 15 out of 41 members took the time
   to vote. &nbsp; I won't name and shame those who didn't vote.</font>
   <br>
   <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">This I find deeply disappointing, firstly
   for Graham and the excellent effort he put into the document, and secondly
   for the future of our TC. &nbsp; This was our first ballot and we fell
   at the first hurdle. &nbsp;That doesn't inspire confidence for our future
   work. &nbsp; Hopefully this will turn out to be just teething troubles
   and once we all get the hang of voting then we'll be OK in future. &nbsp;
   If not well.......</font>
   <br>
   <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I'm going to re-run this ballot and
   also put up a ballot on Eliot's Interoperability Services paper. &nbsp;
   </font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><b>Please take the time to vote this
   time. </b></font>
   <br>
   <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">John</font>

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