Re: [egov] ebXML, Hutchinson Holdings, Terror Threats and ContainerShipmentTracking

[David RR Webber <david@drrw.info>]

Duane,

You obviously took your cynical pill this morning!

When the CEO goes on national TV specifically because he is frustrated 
that noone is addressing the
problem he needs solved - I say - OK - there's is a lot of people 
working this - but they are chasing
their own bouncing balls - and not focusing in on that which the one man 
who has most at stake here
says he needs.

The whole point of the eGov TC is to leverage the combined skills and 
contacts and faciliations that
our members have.

And I'm very happy to report that many folks have sent me leads and 
ideas off-line that I have
been following up on actively.

If we can contribute just one small peice to achieving a solution here 
and making the world a
better place - I for one will be very happy with effort that has not 
gone unwasted.

To paraphrase Churchill - people sit around disinterested until disaster 
strikes, and then react;
while wiser men seek to prevent disaster in the first place.

Thanks, DW
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Duane Nickull wrote:

> Joseph:
>
> *Nothing* we do on this list would affect what is already going on.  
> There are simply too many people working on this now.
>
> Duane
>
> Chiusano Joseph wrote:
>
>> David and Duane,
>>
>> A thought: I wonder if this could fall under the next phase of UBL
>> (which would be 1.1), for Materials Management. According to slide 6 of
>> [1], which is a presentation that Tim McGrath gave in Hong Kong in May
>> 2004, Materials Management is one of the areas that UBL is planning to
>> tackle in its next phase (unless that has changed, which I have not
>> heard).
>>
>> Jon Bosak may weigh in if he has a chance to read this thread.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Joe Chiusano
>> Booz Allen Hamilton
>> Strategy and Technology Consultants to the World
>>
>> [1] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-lcsc/200405/msg00003.html
>>
>> David RR Webber wrote:
>>  
>>
>>> Duane,
>>>
>>> Good thought.  That factor was brought up in the 60 minutes peice - but
>>> the tracking is crucial - since having a secure container saves you
>>> against possible tampering in-transit, and that works seems to be well
>>> underway, but obviously if it is a Trojan in the first place - it just
>>> ensures you have an even better Trojan being more securely delivered!
>>>
>>> The 60 minutes piece also made the point that it is the port 
>>> authorities
>>> and governments that really need to drive this.  If they are apathetic
>>> then there is no amount of calls for standardization that will actually
>>> cause anything to happen.  Again - if you have Hutchinson involved -
>>> then you know that 44% of container traffic will need to conform - and
>>> that's a huge head-start.
>>>
>>> But you are right - we do need to reach out to the stakeholders and the
>>> authoritative sources here to understand how we can move things 
>>> forward.
>>>
>>> Thanks, DW
>>>
>>> =====================
>>> Duane Nickull wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>> David et al:
>>>>
>>>> World Customs Organization are the people to pitch this to I believe.
>>>> They are a UN org.  They have something called the Secure container
>>>> initiative or something like that they are working on.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Duane
>>>>
>>>> David RR Webber wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>> I just saw the peice on 60 Minutes tonight - where the CEO of
>>>>> Hutchinson, who had
>>>>> 44% of container traffic worldwide - is desperately looking for
>>>>> support from
>>>>> governments to help turn around the current vulnerability situation.
>>>>> Having been
>>>>> ignored here in the USA.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>
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