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Subject: Re: [egov] ebXML, Hutchinson Holdings,Terror Threats and ContainerShipment Tracking


Joseph:

*Nothing* we do on this list would affect what is already going on.  
There are simply too many people working on this now.

Duane

Chiusano Joseph wrote:

>David and Duane,
>
>A thought: I wonder if this could fall under the next phase of UBL
>(which would be 1.1), for Materials Management. According to slide 6 of
>[1], which is a presentation that Tim McGrath gave in Hong Kong in May
>2004, Materials Management is one of the areas that UBL is planning to
>tackle in its next phase (unless that has changed, which I have not
>heard).
>
>Jon Bosak may weigh in if he has a chance to read this thread.
>
>Kind Regards,
>Joe Chiusano
>Booz Allen Hamilton
>Strategy and Technology Consultants to the World
>
>[1] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl-lcsc/200405/msg00003.html
>
>David RR Webber wrote:
>  
>
>>Duane,
>>
>>Good thought.  That factor was brought up in the 60 minutes peice - but
>>the tracking is crucial - since having a secure container saves you
>>against possible tampering in-transit, and that works seems to be well
>>underway, but obviously if it is a Trojan in the first place - it just
>>ensures you have an even better Trojan being more securely delivered!
>>
>>The 60 minutes piece also made the point that it is the port authorities
>>and governments that really need to drive this.  If they are apathetic
>>then there is no amount of calls for standardization that will actually
>>cause anything to happen.  Again - if you have Hutchinson involved -
>>then you know that 44% of container traffic will need to conform - and
>>that's a huge head-start.
>>
>>But you are right - we do need to reach out to the stakeholders and the
>>authoritative sources here to understand how we can move things forward.
>>
>>Thanks, DW
>>
>>=====================
>>Duane Nickull wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>David et al:
>>>
>>>World Customs Organization are the people to pitch this to I believe.
>>>They are a UN org.  They have something called the Secure container
>>>initiative or something like that they are working on.
>>>
>>>
>>>Duane
>>>
>>>David RR Webber wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>I just saw the peice on 60 Minutes tonight - where the CEO of
>>>>Hutchinson, who had
>>>>44% of container traffic worldwide - is desperately looking for
>>>>support from
>>>>governments to help turn around the current vulnerability situation.
>>>>Having been
>>>>ignored here in the USA.
>>>>
>>>>
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