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Subject: Re: [emergency] Fwd: OASIS EM TC Category for EDXL standards
I think Art's suggestion is very good. Rex At 10:32 AM -0400 9/20/05, Art Botterell wrote: >Might the promulgation and ongoing maintenance of a recommended >standards profile fall within the scope of NIEM? Could the grant >language simply reference such a listing? > >- Art > > >On Sep 19, 2005, at 6:44 AM, Elysa Jones wrote: > >>Art and others, >>I met last week with the DM program and the EIC and we discussed >>this topic. There is guidance in the works for grant programs as >>well for other federal agencies to use. The particular draft that >>was circulated to the TC members was very preliminary. All agreed >>that making EIC membership a requirement and forcing DMIS was not >>in the best interest of anyone. The main reason for Bill Kalin >>sending the message was to ask if we or someone at OASIS had run >>into this naming issue before. That is, a way to reference several >>standards all in the same discipline but on different upgrade and >>development paths. He was particularly interested in getting some >>wording from us that would reference the work being done now >>including versions to follow as well as additional EDXL emerging >>standards. They seem to want to avoid listing each separately and >>are concerned about versions getting out of date. Any suggestions? >>Elysa Jones, Chair >>OASIS EM-TC >>Engineering Program Manager >>Warning Systems, Inc. >>256-880-8702 x102 >> >>At 05:19 PM 9/18/2005, Art Botterell wrote: >> >>>This strikes me as the wrong way to do the right thing. Certainly >>>there should be grant guidance language that promotes the use of open >>>standards and even perhaps particular ones. >>> >>>But this has the regrettable appearance of an attempt to carve out >>>some bureaucratic turf for EIC and the DM program, by designating >>>them as the sole legitimate source of such standards... even before >>>those standards are identified, evaluated or even created. >>> >>>I would think that an eclectic profile of recommended standards, >>>drawing from all the available sources and updated from time to time >>>as new standards are formalized and old ones are updated, would be >>>much more in the inclusive spirit of NEIM. >>> >>>And from a more tactical point of view, I think it could actually be >>>damaging to the current positive reception and uptake of CAP within >>>its target domain (alerting and warning) to complicate things by >>>confusing it with the much broader, and as yet much less mature, EDXL >>>program. >>> >>>For some time now our workplan has been to continue to promote and >>>develop CAP separately while EDXL develops and mature, and then to >>>create a fully EDXL-compliant version at CAP 2.0. >>> >>>I don't believe OASIS or the TC ought to change that approach for >>>what appear to be merely bureaucratic reasons. Funding guidance >>>language certainly could be written to include CAP and EDXL >>>specifically without conflating the two prematurely or preemptively >>>excluding other potential sources of valuable standards. >>> >>>Aside from being bad practice technically, I don't think OASIS and >>>this TC want to get embroiled in external jurisdictional issues... >>>especially not at a time where the whole current structure of >>>emergency management is undergoing so much scrutiny at the highest >>>policy levels. >>> >>>- Art >>> >>>On Sep 12, 2005, at 9/12/05 3:25 PM, Elysa Jones wrote: >>> >>>>TC Members, I received the following email from Bill Kalin >>>>representing the DHS/DM program. There is specific grant guidance >>>>language proposed for our review. I would prefer discussion begin >>>>on the list and then we can take it up at the next regular TC call >>>>9/20. Elysa >>>> >>>>>From: "Kalin, Bill" <Bill.Kalin@associates.dhs.gov> >>>>>To: "'ejones@warningsystems.com'" <ejones@warningsystems.com> >>>>>Cc: Matt Walton <mwalton3@gmail.com>, "Hines, Chip" >>>>><Chip.Hines@dhs.gov>, >>>>> "Baker, Ashley" <Ashley.Baker@associates.dhs.gov>, >>>>> "McIntyre, Robert" <Robert.Mcintyre@associates.dhs.gov>, >>>>> "Wood, Mark" <Mark.Wood@associates.dhs.gov> >>>>>Subject: OASIS EM TC Category for EDXL standards >>>>>Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 10:11:51 -0400 >>>>> >>>>>Elysa - We have been asked by the Office of Management and Budget >>>>>(OMB) to create standardized RFI/RFP language that federal >>>>>agencies would required to use when seeking to purchase an >>>>>incident management software application. We want to be able to >>>>>refer to EDXL as a single set of standards as opposed to listing >>>>>them all individually, including CAP. This is the first step in >>>>>creating common grant guidance language that will be required when >>>>>local, tribal and state governments are seeking to purchase >>>>>incident management tools with DHS grant money. We believe this >>>>>will strongly facilitate the adoption of standards within the >>>>>vendor community and further develop this emerging market. >>>>> >>>>>What can be done via OASIS to help create this single type of >>>>>category under the OASIS TC? I am attaching a draft of proposed >>>>>language for the RFI/RFP's which includes a desired reference to >>>>>the OASIS web site. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Bill Kalin >>>>>Disaster Management eGov Initiative >>>>>Office of the Chief Information Officer >>>>>Emergency Preparedness and Response/FEMA >>>>>Department of Homeland Security >>>>>(202) 646-4347 >>>>>bill.kalin@associates.dhs.gov >>>>> >>>><Purchase_Guidance_DM.doc> >>>> >>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that >>>>generates this mail. You may a link to this group and all your TCs >>>>in OASIS >>>>at: >>>>https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php >>>> >>> >>> >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that >>>generates this mail. 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