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Subject: Proposal for Index, Combining Entries, pp and passim


It seems to me that the "45pp" example in section 7.8.1 in fact is a 
translation of the German "45ff". Unfortunately, it is not sufficient to 
  change the example to either "XML 45-48 passim" or "XML, pp. 45-48", 
because the description of the "text:combine-entries-with-pp" states

"As the start number with a pp label, or the appropriate label for the 
chosen language, using the text:combine-entries-with-pp attribute"

This means that we have a restriction for the start number here. We have 
(at least) to options to resolve this.

a) We allows language specific either a start number, or a range.

b) We keep the attribute as it is, but explicitly specify that a page 
range is displayed if the text:combine-entries-with-dash attribute has 
the value true.

Best regards


Patrick Durusau wrote:
> Dave,
> Dave Pawson wrote:
>> On 16/11/06, Patrick Durusau <patrick@durusau.net> wrote:
>>> > If you could name a reference that applies equally to all nations
>>> > I guess that would apply.
>>> >
>>> I don't know of any reference that applies to all nations but,
>>> conceptually I don't see how scattered references to XML on pages 45,
>>> 46, 47, 48 could be represented as "XML 45pp" given the absence of an
>>> end point for the references.
>> that's a different issue from quoting a single nation reference as
>> the reason to change how  bib references are handled.
>> Are you saying that '45pp' is an idref, or that 45pp is the text content
>> for the bib/index reference?
> In the current specification, the text content is "45pp" to represent an 
> index entry for XML on pages 45, 46, 47, 48.
> I was citing the reference as I suspected it was their intent to follow 
> that style.
> But, as Bruce points out, you could have XML 45-48 pp. (as text 
> content), but that is not what appears in the schema.
> Either way,  I suspect that  45pp is simply an error.
> Hope you are having a great day!
> Patrick
>>> I don't doubt that other indexing systems exist for denoting ranges that
>>> contain references for an index entry. I would be interested in learning
>>> of any widely used system that denotes a range of references with only
>>> the starting point of the range.
>> The bib system users have been fighting this for years and have a number
>> of solutions. If Bruce is listening I'm surprised he hasn't come up with
>> ready solutions. I think he's coded this class of problem in XSLT.
>> If not, he's on the metadata group.
>> regards

Michael Brauer, Technical Architect Software Engineering
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