Re: [office] Re: Notes from September 26th, 2022 - ODF TC Teleconference - Next Meeting 10th of October, 2022

[Patrick Durusau <patrick@durusau.net>]

Michael,

Thanks!

Will do!

Patrick

On 9/26/22 13:21, Michael Stahl wrote:
> hi Patrick, for the next meeting please add:
>
> https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-4110
>
> and review of 4 mails with list of ODF 1.4 issues:
>
> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/202207/msg00019.html
> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/202207/msg00026.html
> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/202207/msg00028.html
> https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/office/202207/msg00035.html
>
> regards,
> Âmichael
>
> On 26.09.22 19:08, Patrick Durusau wrote:
> > Greetings!
> >
> > The notes from the ODF Teleconference of 26th of September, 2022, 
> > follow below.
> >
> > Hope everyone is at the start of a great week!
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > **************
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Quorum - yes
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Agenda - add Office-4110
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Regina - decision missing for 4024
> >
> > *Patrick:* 
> > https://issues.oasis-open.org/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20OFFICE%20AND%20fixVersion%20%3D%20%22ODF%201.4%22%20ORDER%20BY%20status%20ASC
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Regina - updated spreadsheet - for next call to continue 
> > with it - Regina's email of Aug. 8th
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Regina - next call is 10th of October - no meeting 3rd of 
> > October
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Michael - can also look directly at the emails
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â last item today - review regina's spreadsheet
> >
> > *Michael Stahl:*Â there are only 4 emails
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Amend agenda to add the outstanding 4 issues from 
> > Regina's spreadsheet to end
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Agenda approved by consent with that amendment
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Minutes of September 12th - approved by consent
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â ODF 1.3 - Moving Towards ISO
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Interoperability testing -
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Francis - wasn't that part of the OASIS approval process
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â ODF Plugfests - community driven - London -
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Francis - importance of interoperability testing
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Svante - a list of plugfests?
> >
> > *Svante:*Â https://odfplugfest.org/
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Jos - did some interoperability testing
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Good basis for history of interoperability
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Francis - is it interoperability for new features of ODF 
> > 1.3 or is it sufficient that ODF 1.2 was tested and ODF 1.3 was built 
> > on that basis?
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Francis - doesn't break but have two implementers 
> > implemented new features and found their implementations interoperable?
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Need list of new features in 1.3, then implementations of 
> > 1.3 that have implemented those, then test if those are interoperable
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Implementers could assert they have tested for 
> > interoperability - or we can arrange for testing
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Q to implementers - did they implemetment new features 
> > for ODF 1.3, did they test for interoperability of those features
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Michael - there was interperability using Xpath/xSlt to 
> > see if new items were preserved -
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Francis - general response useful - still need to look at 
> > where interoperability would be tested - Functions changed in part 4, 
> > which ones require interoperability testing
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Andreas - changes were mostly in the large groups, not in 
> > the group everyone implements
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Francis, can check the ones in the small group at least
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Andreas - must check values for interoperability - add 
> > function for example
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Francis - simple approach - which features new/changed in 
> > ODF 1.3 have you implemented?, have you tested for interoperability 
> > in each case?
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Ask implementers who are members of the TC those questions.
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â https://issues.oasis-open.org/browse/OFFICE-3750
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Regina - there is a general question of what to do when 
> > implementers do it differently than specified?
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Andreas - different from standard, its a bug in the 
> > implementation
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Andreas - says it should be in degrees - standard defines 
> > truth
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Andreas - every file has a version attribute - if 1.2, 
> > should be in degrees
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Andreas - don't have this feature in gnumeric
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Andreas - would be a bug in gnumeric if used radians
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Andreas - can always make breaking changes - should 
> > always check version numbers -
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Andreas - must have had a reason for degrees in ODF 1.2
> >
> > *Patrick:*Â Meet again 10th Oct. - adjourned
--
Patrick Durusau
patrick@durusau.net
Technical Advisory Board, OASIS (TAB)
Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300
Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)

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