Re: [orms] What I mean by "Rank"

[Tatsuki Sakushima <tatsuki@nri.com>]

Yes. However, if ORMS does not provide a easy way to transfer the data they have
to standardized statistical value, it is going to be a barrier for adoption. 

People may prefer using exactly what they have.
I still don't know what is acceptable to developers.

Tatsuki

(4/21/10 2:26 PM), Nat Sakimura wrote:
> At the same time, I would like to point out that there needs to be some 
> kind of comparability among the reputation. Otherwise, one of the goal 
> for this spec., the portability and aggregatability will be lost. 
> Representing it as a statistical value ("score") is one way to achieve 
> these requirements.
> 
> "Stars" are visual representation of the "scores" as "grading". Or 
> perhaps could be characterized as a projection of the score onto 
> discrete points. In one extreme case, all the scores may be mapped to a 
> point, e.g., [0,100]->"4 Stars". In such a case, just having "stars" are 
> not terribly useful. So, at least, I think there SHOULD be "scores" 
> available, whether it is shown to the users in a GUI or not.
> 
> =nat
> 
> 
> 
> (2010/04/22 3:04), Mani, Mahalingam (Mani) wrote:
>> Agreed. It could be a slew of such representations.
>>
>> (Exploring how we can be flexible in having ORM systems or reputation
>> servers make custom or standard representations that are user-friendly
>> or are of consumer-interest is worth it).
>>
>> Regards,
>> -mani
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tatsuki Sakushima [mailto:tatsuki@nri.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:24 AM
>> To: Mani, Mahalingam (Mani)
>> Cc: Nat Sakimura; orms@lists.oasis-open.org
>> Subject: Re: [orms] What I mean by "Rank"
>>
>> Some services that I examined don't use scores.
>>
>> Please see them in the RealLifeReputationExample Wiki page.
>>
>> http://wiki.oasis-open.org/orms/RealLifeReputationExamples
>>
>> Most of the services express the grades as "stars".
>> This is typical to merchant sites including Amazon.
>>
>> I think we need to examine more common use cases
>> to capture common denominator in features so that
>> we can expect more adoptions.
>>
>> Tatsuki
>>
>> (4/21/10 9:25 AM), Mani, Mahalingam (Mani) wrote:
>>   
>>> One may also want to consider grading - (for example:
>>> excellent/very-good/good/fair/bad) (although it seems to impose an
>>> opinion of the reputation
>>> System as to what score-range is qualifies for which grade; but it
>>> serves to mitigate the relative volatility of rank).
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> -mani
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mani, Mahalingam (Mani) [mailto:mmani@avaya.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 9:19 AM
>>> To: Nat Sakimura; orms@lists.oasis-open.org
>>> Subject: RE: [orms] What I mean by "Rank"
>>>
>>> Rank can become a volatile parameter that's hard to update quickly in
>>> some contexts.
>>> This can be an optional/conditional attribute as opposed to a
>>>      
>> mandatory,
>>   
>>> it seems to me.
>>>
>>> -mani
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sakimura@gmail.com [mailto:sakimura@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Nat
>>> Sakimura
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 8:55 AM
>>> To: orms@lists.oasis-open.org
>>> Subject: [orms] What I mean by "Rank"
>>>
>>> What I mean by Rank is the ordinal ranking number of the subject in
>>> the category.
>>> For example, if there are 5 cameras with the following scores:
>>>
>>> Nikon 89
>>> Canon 86
>>> Panasonic 85
>>> Pentax 82
>>>
>>> Then, Panasoni's Rank is "3".
>>>
>>>      
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