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Subject: RE: [public-sector-cloud-discuss] PROPOSED TC CHARTER

@Tony: Noting and agree with Tony's point about the additional (seemingly limitless) works in play right now ..

@John: While I don't disagree with the fundamental thrust of the draft, I think it could do a slightly better job of contextualising what it is trying to achieve.
My thought was that if 'cloud' was a spec of IT bits 'n pieces collected together to offer something (like SAML in spec of XML to offer authentication), then what we are proposing here is an implementation/conformance profile for government i.e. what features do governments want to see in cloud offerings to government.  Once you have these, you can set up conformance programs to check to see if the features in cloud vendor x or y are indeed present. 

Taking the SAML analogy one step further, armed with the conformance profile, governments then might agree on how those features (or a sub set that can be commonly agreed upon) are configured, in what is usually understood as a deployment profile. This is where the 'levels' come in - the configuration of the features will vary depending on the level.  

If the SAML conformance and deployment profile notions were well enough understood, then applying that approach here might help further decompose what seems to be an amorphous list of stuff..

Linking back to Neil's reference to goings-on in Kantara, it's worth noting that Kantara does conformance testing and certification for SAML and will do for OpenID Connect when the spec is stable. And in the non technical spec area, it does assurance approval of identity IdPs and CSPs. So in essence, Kantara's work groups outputs are inputs to the assurance and certification programs. So to Neil's point, the outputs from the proposed Kantara CloudIDsec wg would inform the work in this group, and visa versa. 


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From: public-sector-cloud-discuss@lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:public-sector-cloud-discuss@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf Of Neil McEvoy
Sent: Friday, 22 June 2012 7:52 a.m.
To: public-sector-cloud-discuss@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [public-sector-cloud-discuss] PROPOSED TC CHARTER

Thanks John.

Here is an article I have just posted that clarifies the main ideas behind
the Kantara CloudIDsec wg I have proposed for inclusion:


The main idea being the role of Kantara as approved Trust Framework
provider can enable Cloud hosters to be regulated in a form relevant to
GovClouds, meeting the requirements of various relevant Whitehouse & other

Cheers Neil.

> Thanks to all for the messages of support so far and for the constructive
> suggestions.  We will of course need many more supporters if we are to get
> the TC up and running but let's try and consolidate what we have so far
> into
> a possible Charter for the new TC.   Attached is a draft and please feel
> free to edit it as you see fit.  It's important that we get this right as
> it
> will be used to drive the work of the TC, so for instance have we got the
> right set of Deliverables or are the other things we should try and
> produce?
> Assuming that we can make good progress on this over the next few weeks
> then
> the plan would be to launch the new TC adjacent to the next International
> Cloud Symposium (ICS 2012) which will be held in Washington DC on 10th -
> 12th October.  It was of course the ICS 2011 event that was the origin of
> this new TC so having the first meeting at ICS 2012 would be a very good
> piece of publicity and hopefully would attract several new members.
> John
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