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Subject: Re: [regrep-comresolve] Issue database distribution: 3/15/2002


Joel,

This is a private TC list. Please do not copy non TC members on messages.

Thanks for seeding the already planned agenda item:

>-Identify any missing issues and log them

Lets discuss it tomorrow.

Thanks.

"Munter, Joel D" wrote:

> Farrukh, et al
>
> We are both referring to the same note [1] from the Oasis ebXML Registry TC
> chair, Kathryn.  We are interpreting it 180 degrees differently.  Please
> indulge me by carefully reading my complete argument below.
>
> I would like to expand on my argument a little in support of the proposed
> discussion on Monday.  A key "customer" (BP Catalog Team) of the Oasis V2
> Reg/Rep specifications has stated that the design of the unique ID based on
> UUID does not currently meet their requirements [2].  The V2 Reg/Rep
> specifications reference the standard and well-used UUID scheme. [3, section
> 7.3.1]
>
> The use/adoption of the UUID scheme by the Reg/Rep team is consistent with
> how many current specifications (within and outside of the ebXML effort) are
> structuring the definition of unique keys.  Some relevant questions to ask
> then are: Are the requirements [2] being proposed by the BP catalog team
> unique to the catalog team?  Additionally, were these requirements known to
> the ebXML effort at its inception or are they new?  Other groups across the
> ebXML effort are discussing this issue also. [4]
>
> If the requirement was recorded early in the ebXML [5,6] effort and the
> current specifications do not meet the requirement, then it should be
> recorded within this team's V2 issues log.  It is my assertion that this
> requirement did exist early as evidenced by [6, lines 868:872].  If you all
> believe that the requirements noted in [2] have been added since the ebXML
> effort began its latter (i.e., V2) phases or the described requirements for
> identification have been expanded, then I agree that this issue is not
> unique to the Reg/Rep team but in fact is a limitation of all current ebXML
> V2 specifications.
>
> It shows a great deal of maturity and prudence to show your limitations or
> to clearly delineate them within an issues log along side the specifications
> themselves.  There is nothing wrong with doing this.
>
> [1] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/regrep/200203/msg00030.html
> [2] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/regrep/200202/msg00014.html
> [3] http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/regrep/documents/2.0/specs/ebrs.pdf
> [4] http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ebxml-cppa/200202/msg00065.html
> [5] http://www.ebxml.org/specs/ebREQ.pdf
> [6] http://www.ebxml.org/specs/ebTA.pdf
>
> Joel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Munter, Joel D [mailto:joel.d.munter@intel.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 2:26 PM
> To: 'Oasis RR Comment Resolution'
> Subject: RE: [regrep-comresolve] Issue database distribution: 3/15/2002
>
> And I based my opinion upon the same criteria so that is why I ask to
> discuss this on Monday.
>
> <snip>
>         What I want to focus on right now is comments
>         that are specific to version 2.0 of the specs.
> </snip>
>
> Joel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Farrukh Najmi [mailto:Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM]
> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 2:02 PM
> To: Munter, Joel D
> Cc: 'Oasis RR Comment Resolution'
> Subject: Re: [regrep-comresolve] Issue database distribution: 3/15/2002
>
> Joel,
>
> I did not make this decision unilaterally. It was based on Katheryn's email
> at:
>
> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/regrep/200203/msg00030.html
>
> I applied the criterea she had laid out.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Farrukh
>
> "Munter, Joel D" wrote:
>
> > Farrukh,
> >
> > I ask you to please place this as a discussion item on the agenda.  This
> is
> > not your sole decision to make.  This is why we have the resolution
> > sub-team.  The fact is that Kathryn discussed this in several team Reg/Rep
> > meetings and the comments themselves from Nita indicate specific things in
> > the V2 Reg/Rep that DO NOT meet their requirements.  In my mind, that
> would
> > make this a valid V2 comment.
> >
> > <snip>
> >         We(the ebXML BP Catalog team) had a long conversation last
> >         week with Kathryn about unique identification and what their
> >         scheme should be. We provided her with our requirements for
> >         unique identification that was not satisfied by the current
> >         UUID specification of regrep. The various things that we
> >         touched base upon were:...
> > </snip>
> >
> > I agree that this may in fact become a V3 work item but I strongly
> recommend
> > that please record the comment and the agreed disposition.  I at least ask
> > that we discuss this in our sub-team.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Joel
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Farrukh Najmi [mailto:Farrukh.Najmi@Sun.COM]
> > Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 10:42 AM
> > To: 'Oasis RR Comment Resolution'
> > Subject: Re: [regrep-comresolve] Issue database distribution: 3/15/2002
> >
> > I should have noted that I did not include Nita's comments at:
> >
> > http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/regrep/200202/msg00014.html
> >
> > because:
> >
> > -They were not directed to V2 specs
> >
> > -They were part of ongoing discussions between Registry TC and other TCs
> > focused on what we need to do for V3.
> >
> > Please bring to the team's attention any other issues that I might have
> > missed. Thanks.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Farrukh
> >
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--
Regards,
Farrukh




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