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Subject: RE: [regrep] Reg/Rep & UDDI (was: Describing ebXML Reg/Rep ...)

In this vein, I think it would be useful to have someone enumerate the functionality that regrep would have to add in order to show what Matt wants shown.  Could an ebXML registry have its contents replicated (at least in the public registries)?  Is there something about the tModel that is specific to UDDI?  Can the web service calls take place on ebMS (ebXML Messaging Service) or only SOAP?  Finally, is there a political reason for not trying to incorporate the functionality of UDDI into ebXML registries?


-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew MacKenzie [mailto:matt@mac-kenzie.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 6:04 PM
To: OASIS regrep
Subject: [regrep] Reg/Rep & UDDI (was: Describing ebXML Reg/Rep ...)

This scenario would suggest to a user that UDDI is more broad 
functionality wise than regrep, and as Farrukh noted, further obfuscate 
the regrep image.

What really makes sense to me is this group undertaking a few TC 
approved/supported whitepapers or technical notes showing how an ebXML 
Registry can do all that UDDI does _in addition_ to the typical regrep 
functionality, then flogging them to the developer community.  Maybe 
ebXML vendors will be able to appeal to the customers who don't blindly 
swallow their Microsoft rep's hollow claims about software such as 
UDDI.  Why would hundreds of companies need a web services registry?  
That boggles my mind.  Now, a registry like ebXML's that is nearly a 
content management system...I can see hundreds of deployments of that...


On Thursday, Jan 30, 2003, at 08:49 America/Vancouver, Munter, Joel D 

> Seeing ebXML based services "registered" in a UDDI registry
> (semi-private or the public UBR) and therefore discoverable in a demo
> may go a long way toward eliminating some confusion.
> The Technical note being drafted by Kibakura-san (Fujitsu) and being
> discussed on the UDDI-spec dist list has come along way.  I recommend
> that you all read this and comment as you need to.
> Joel Munter, Intel
> desk: 480.552.3076
> cell:  602.790.0924
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chiusano Joseph [mailto:chiusano_joseph@bah.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:13 AM
> To: Matthew MacKenzie
> Cc: Anne Thomas Manes; Max Voskob; Still Erik R; OASIS regrep
> Subject: Re: [regrep] Describing ebXML Reg/Rep - observations from 
> Santa
> Fe
> One way to help remedy this perception might be to present on
> "Registering Web Services in an ebXML Registry" at some of the Web
> services conferences, such as Web Services One.
> Some other things that might help are the Best Practices paper on
> registering Web services in an ebXML Registry (currently in progress),
> and perhaps in the future a high-level mapping between the 2 registry
> architectures (such as "ebXML Registry Classification is *roughly*
> equivalent to UDDI categoryBag", "ebXML Organization is *roughly*
> equivalent to UDDI businessEntity", etc.)
> Joe
> Matthew MacKenzie wrote:
>> Anne,
>> You're right on.  ebXML != Web Services, at least not general
>> perception wise.  I'd like to see that changed somewhat, ebXML
>> messaging is web services based, and ebXML registry is a web service.
>> On Thursday, Jan 30, 2003, at 07:40 America/Vancouver, Anne Thomas
>> Manes wrote:
>>> I think RegRep's biggest issue is that it's so closely associated
> with
>>> ebXML, and when most people think of Web services, they think of
>>> not
>>> ebXML. Likewise, when they think of a Web services registry, they
>>> think of
>>> UDDI.
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