[sca-bpel] Raw chat log of 2008-09-04 telcon

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Sanjay: Please note that we are using a different dial-in this time

anonymous1 morphed into Najeeb Andrabi

Dave Booz: can someone post the dialin info here

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Dave Booz: thx

Mike Edwards: thanks

Mike Edwards: I could not get to the BPEL OASIS site for the new number

Sanjay: Agenda:

Sanjay: Agenda:

1. Roll Call

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php

2. Appointment of scribe

Scribe list attached below

3. Agenda bashing

4. Approval of July 31, 2008 minutes

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200808/msg00001.html

5. Action items review

http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/action_items.php

a) AI #0021

Chairs - to follow up with Mary to post the CD docs to OASIS repository

Done. Docs uploaded but SCA BPEL NS is not live yet.

b) AI #0042

Editors to incorporate all issue resolutions by 10 July 2008

6. Update from Editors

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel-editors/200808/msg00000.html

7. Issue 18 http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-18

TITLE- Need to rewrite the SCA-BPEL specifications with RFC-2119

keywords/statements

Email discussion:

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200807/msg00033.html

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200807/msg00034.html

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200807/msg00035.html

http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200808/msg00000.html

8. AOB

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Scribe list:

* Moser, Mr Simon (11/15/07): 1

* Trickovic, Mrs Ivana (1/27/08, 4/17/0: 2

* Andrabi, Mr. Najeeb (10/4/07, 2/14/08, 3/27/08, 5/8/0: 4

* Chapman, Dr Martin (9/7/07, 12/13/07, 2/28/08, 5/15/0: 4

* Malhotra, Mr Ashok (11/29/07, 2/21/08, 5/1/08, 5/29/0: 4

* Kand, Khanderao (9/20/07, 1/31/08, 4/10/08, 7/10/0: 4

* van der Rijn, Danny (12/06/07, 5/22/08, 6/19/08, 7/24/0: 4

* Koenig, Mr Dieter (10/25/07, 1/10/08, 3/13/08, 4/24/08, 7/31/0: 5

* Rowley, Mr Michael (9/27/07, 2/7/0: Issues Editor

Sanjay: Dave, are you dialed in?

Najeeb Andrabi: Agenda approved

Najeeb Andrabi: minutes approved

Najeeb Andrabi: AI #0021 : lot of work done but RIDL document is not uploaded

Najeeb Andrabi: AI#0021 still open.

Michael Rowley: Just joined.  I hadn't seen the updated conf #.

Najeeb Andrabi: AI #0042 is still open.

Najeeb Andrabi: Martin Chapman: Spec version 9 contains section 2.1.1 in RFC2119, but it is not approved by committee.

Martin C is having trouble hearing

Najeeb Andrabi: Michael Rowley: Section 2.1 needs to be reverted for CD01 version 9.

Najeeb Andrabi: Martin to revert RFC2119 changes to section 2.1 for CD01 version 9.

Najeeb Andrabi: Issue 18 discussion

Sanjay: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200808/msg00000.html

Najeeb Andrabi: Sanjay: main issue was to define conformance target

Najeeb Andrabi: Danny: Send this issue to liaison committee as this is generic problem

Najeeb Andrabi: to define appropriate conformance targets

Najeeb Andrabi: Sanjay: First we should provide a concrete proposal then send it to the liaison committee

Najeeb Andrabi: Mike Edwards: We should first define what introspected component type will be.

Najeeb Andrabi: Danny: What introspected component type file will be is already well defined. The conformance target for generated component type file is in contention.

Najeeb Andrabi: Sanjay: Define terminology for component type file.

Najeeb Andrabi: Michael Rowley: any member who objected to language in section 2.1 can re-write section in a way that is acceptable to the committee.

Najeeb Andrabi: Martin Chapman will update section 2.1

Najeeb Andrabi: Sanjay: CD revision 05 and revision 09 has last two proposals for this issue.

Najeeb Andrabi: Sanjay: we first come up with proposal then take the amorphous terminology to the liaison committee.

Najeeb Andrabi: Michael Rowley: Assembly spec should define following terms: Component type file, introspected component type and component type information.

Michael Rowley: The last one was: "effective component type"

Najeeb Andrabi: Action item for Martin Chapman to come up with the revised proposal and then

Najeeb Andrabi: submit it to the assembly committee for action.

Najeeb Andrabi: Comeback to this TC with revised proposal and after it is approved by this TC.

Najeeb Andrabi: then submit it to the assembly TC.

Najeeb Andrabi: Action Item: Martin Chapman to make proposal for issue 18

Najeeb Andrabi: Sanjay: Can we apply RFC2119 changes in parallel?

Mike Edwards: Martin - you might like to look at:

Najeeb Andrabi: Martin Chapman: we can as some sections have conformance targets that are not in dispute.

Mike Edwards: sca-javaci-draft-20070926_IssueXX.doc

Mike Edwards: from the Java TC

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