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Subject: Formatted minutes of 2009-02-19 telcon


Attached.
Thanks to Martin for scribing.

-Anish
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Title: SCA-BPEL - 2009-02-19

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OASIS SCA-BPEL TC

19 FEB 2009

Attendees

Present
Michael Rowley, (Active Endpoints, Inc.)
David Booz, (IBM)
Dieter Koenig, (IBM)
Martin Chapman, (Oracle Corporation)
Anish Karmarkar, (Oracle Corporation)
Ashok Malhotra, (Oracle Corporation)
Sanjay Patil, (SAP AG)
Najeeb Andrabi, (TIBCO Software Inc.)
Danny van der Rijn, (TIBCO Software Inc.)
Chair
Sanjay Patil
Scribe
Martin Chapman
Agenda:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200902/msg00020.html

Contents

Topics
[1]  Minutes
[2]  SCA BPEL schedule
[3]  New Issues
[4]  Issue 12
[5]  Issue 18 - http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-18
Table of Resolutions
Table of Action Items

Action Items

New:
2009-02-19-1: Anish to send the 1st draft of the test assertion doc by 2009-02-21

Resolutions


Minutes

<anish>
1. Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-bpel/members/roster.php
2. Appointment of scribe
Scribe list attached below
3. Agenda bashing
4. Approval of Feb 12, 2009 minutes
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200902/msg00017.html
5. Action Items review
6. SCA BPEL schedule reminder
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200901/msg00016.html
and
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200901/msg00018.html
Specs -
PR draft ready: March 5th
PR vote: March 12th
Testing -
Test Assertions complete 27/02/2009
TestCases complete 27/03/2009
Public review draft ready 17/04/2009
1st Public review complete 26/06/2009
This requires us to resolve all our issues by 26th February. If we dont' get there, we may have to extend our calls to 2 hours starting at 7am pacific.
7. Opening of New Issues
a) Issue 28
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-28
Assembly spec has removed the conversational interface feature
8. Issue 12 - http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-12
TITLE - Long-Running Request-Response Operations
Latest proposal from Dieter: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200902/msg00013.html
9. Issue 18 - http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-18
TITLE - Need to rewrite the SCA-BPEL specifications with RFC-2119
keywords/statements
Latest version is CD01 rev15 (yes, the name isn't quite right, but we'll fix this going forward). See http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200902/msg00012.html
10. Issue 27 - http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-27
Complete the conformance section
Proposal at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200902/msg00003.html
11. Issue 28 - http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-28 (if opened)
Proposal in JIRA
12. AOB

Scribe: Martin Chapman

Scribe: Martin Chapman

Minutes

 
 
No commenst on Minutes. Minutes approved w/o
Resolution: minutes of 2009-02-12 telcon posted at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200902/msg00017.html approved.
 
Agenda approved

SCA BPEL schedule

 
Sanjay reviews current plan
 
volnteers requested for test assertions in order to keep this timeline
Danny van der Rijn: @anish: Please speak up?
 
Anish says comitemnet should not be large
 
Anish would like at least one person to help him
 
No one steos up at the meeting, but an email will be sent on the list.
Action: Anish to send the 1st draft of the test assertion doc by 2009-02-21
 
Mike R and Sanjay volunteer to take on some assertions
 
Anish also mentions that we may need longer calls to get to 1st PR deadline. Will come back to this under AOB

New Issues

 
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-28
Assembly spec has removed the conversational interface feature
 
Anish reported this issues based on a resolution from Assembly TC
 
Roll 9 out of 10 members on the call
 
Anish moves to open bpel-28, 2nd Dieter
 
Passed w/o

Issue 12

 
Issue 12 - http://osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-12
TITLE - Long-Running Request-Response Operations
Latest proposal from Dieter: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200902/msg00013.html
 
Dieter reviews his proposal
 
Danny doesnt like the Should statements
 
Danny doesnt think there is a conformance target that relates to the shoulds
 
Martin doesnt like the should in last sentence aboiut the invoke. what does "physically block system resources" mean
 
Najeeb, long running is implcit
 
so no need to talk about this
 
The bindings should make it obvious
Anish:
intent is to advertise to other SCA atrifacts and the assembler the intention
Sanjay:
The intent has been defined by the Assembly TC
 
sca bpel should say somethign about this
Mike R:
not sure this text is all relevant to sca bpel
 
so need to review in this light
 
Most of this should be in the assmbly spec
<Dieter Koenig>
If a BPEL process implements a long-running request-response operation then the corresponding interface of the process (or the individual operation) SHOULD be marked using the "asyncInvocation" policy intent.
Anish:
good think to mention the intent
<Dieter Koenig>
i agree with mentioning it - after all, BPEL is the primary use case (for long-running stuff)
Martin:
need ti talk about the intent, but rest of rfc2119 could probably go
Ashok:
this intent is not in the Policy spec yet
DaveB:
should be, Policy issue needs to be raised
Sanjay:
Dieter's first paragrah is probaly enough fo rthis spec
<anish>
How about -- Note: The assembly spec defines a "asynInvocation" policy intent for long-running operation. BPEL processes that implement a long-running req-res operation are encouraged to mark the interface with this intent
 
Anish moves to resolve issue 12 with the following text "Note: The assembly spec defines a "asynInvocation" policy intent for long-running operation. BPEL processes that implement a long-running req-res operation are encouraged to mark the interface with this intent"
 
2nd by Dieter
<Dieter Koenig>
"asyncInvocation"
 
Editors always have leeway to make non-normative tweaks
 
Passed w/o
Resolution: issue 12 resolved with the text (along with appropriate ed license): Note: The assembly spec defines a "asynInvocation" policy intent for long-running operation. BPEL processes that implement a long-running req-res operation are encouraged to mark the interface with this intent

Issue 18 - http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/BPEL-18

<anish>
SBPEL and 'S' is silent
<anish>
SBPL
<anish>
SCABPL
 
motion Martin. Resolve issue 18 with Rev 15 proposal http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200902/msg00012.html
but replacing the BPEL label with SBPEL throughout
 
2nd Danny
 
Passed w/o
Resolution: Issue 18 resolved with cd01-rev15 proposal at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-bpel/200902/msg00012.html
<anish>
so we only have 2 more issues
<anish>
and have proposals for both
<Dieter Koenig>
unfortunately i cannot attend at all next week
 
topic aob:
 
next call will start at 7:30 am pdt and last 1.5 hours
 
meeting closed

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