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Subject: Raw minutes SCA Java 2008-08-11
Raw minutes: Mark Combellack1 morphed into Mark Combellack Mark Combellack: Agenda: - Roll Call http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=sca-j - Appointment of scribe. List attached below - Agenda bashing - Approval of minutes from previous meeting(s) http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/29027/SCA%20Java%20Minutes%202008-08-04.doc 1. Leaves of Absence: Anish Karmarkar will be on LOA from August 25 to Sept 5 inclusive. 2. Review action items: 2008-07-15-2: Vladimir to produce a proposal for JAVA-2 2008-07-15-4: Chairs to produce schedule for spec completion with help from Anish 2008-07-15-5: Simon to draft new version of callback proposal covering generic model and Java-specific aspects, by August 7 2008-07-15-9: MikeE to produce worked example of his proposal for JAVA-1, and to show the invocation model 2008-07-24-2: Simon to revise proposal for issue 49 based on today's discussion 2008-08-04-1: Simon to send a note to the TC asking about some proposed time slots for the JEE subcommittee calls 2008-08-04-2: Simon to ask Mary about the decision-making process for subcommittees 2008-07-15-x: Editors to prepare CD draft by July 31 for review by TC 3. SCA-J JEE SubCommittee: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j-jee/ Discuss appointing a Chair http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00036.html Discuss timing and frequency of conference call http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00037.html 4. Schedule for completion of the standard http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/opencsa-liaison/200808/msg00006.html 5. Accepting new issues: No new issues this week. 6. Open issues discussion: JAVA-25: Callback Simplification http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-25 Original "hallucination" email proposal by Simon (non-conversational case): http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200807/msg00046.html Rewritten version of this proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00022.html Jim's response to the proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00039.html Subsequent "brainstorm" proposal by Simon (conversational case): http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200807/msg00046.html Comments from a users perspective (from Meeraj Kunnumpurath) http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200807/msg00079.html Latest email on this thread is at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00038.html Jim's initial comments: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200807/msg00051.html Jim's latest email: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200807/msg00079.html JAVA-30: "Process" Scope http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-30 Proposal at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200807/msg00068.html JAVA-47: Missing description of what the @EagerInit annotation does http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-47 Proposal in JIRA JAVA-1: Accessing SCA Services from non-SCA component code http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-1 Ron Barack Proposal http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/email/archives/200803/msg00020.html Mike Edwards Proposal http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/email/archives/200804/msg00018.html Michael Rowley proposal http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/sca-j/email/archives/200803/msg00061.html 7. Adjourn --------------------------------------------------------------- Rotating scribe list: Plamen Pavlov SAP AG (0) Peter Walker Sun Microsystems (1) Roberto Chinnici Sun Microsystems (2) Peter Peshev SAP AG (2) Ron Barack SAP AG (3) Michael Beisiegel IBM (3) Jim Marino Individual (3) Vamsavardhana Chillakuru IBM (1) David Booz IBM (4) Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation (4) Mike Edwards IBM (3) Sanjay Patil SAP AG (3) Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation (3) Pradeep Simha TIBCO Software Inc. (3) Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation (3) Bryan Aupperle IBM (3) Vladimir Savchenko SAP AG (1) anonymous morphed into Meeraj scabooz: testing anonymous morphed into anish Jim Marino: Jim scribing Jim Marino: Agend bashing anonymous morphed into Looking for summer... Jim Marino: Dave comments on meeting entry is incorrectly marked 8-12 Looking for summer... would love a pint of scabooze Jim Marino: Mark updated minutes with issue numbers Jim Marino: Minutes approved scabooz: /me is still on vacation Jim Marino: Next item LOL Anish Jim Marino: Action 1: Java-2 proposal Jim Marino: Vladimir not present Jim Marino: Action: Schedule for Spec completion Jim Marino: Issue 5: Callback proposal Jim Marino: Simon sent it Jim Marino: Mike Edwards example for Java 1, not done Jim Marino: Simon proposal Issue 49, not done Jim Marino: (tied up with callbacks) Jim Marino: Simon to ask Mary about decision-making, now clairified Jim Marino: Next item SCA-JEE chair Jim Marino: Simon says to let subcommittee get on with appointing a chair anish not the best time for me, but can do it Vamsi: Friday is ok with me. Jim Marino: Discussion on time for SCA-JEE Jim Marino: Simon motions for Friday 7-8PST Jim Marino: Dave seconds Jim Marino: Motions passes Jim Marino: without objection Jim Marino: Simon motions to make first call Friday 13th Jim Marino: correction Friday 15th Jim Marino: Make E seconds Jim Marino: Mike E Jim Marino: no objection, passes Jim Marino: Simon to take an action item to create an entry in the calendar Jim Marino: and will create the Agenda Jim Marino: Schedule for completion of standard Jim Marino: Discussion of draft schedule Jim Marino: Discussion of public review process Jim Marino: Testing subcommittee discussion Jim Marino: Mark to send an email Jim Marino: No new issues Jim Marino: Java 25 Mark Combellack1: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200808/msg00022.html Jim Marino: Simon presents the proposal Jim Marino: Anish comment: client can invlude correlation information in callback address Jim Marino: Anish question: who decides for correlation: binding, API? Jim Marino: Simon: it could vary Jim Marino: Mike E comments on point 2 Jim Marino: wording Jim Marino: Mike E: #1 does not place an obligation on server side to use callback address from client Mark Combellack1: 5 minute warning Mike Edwards: Any callback invocations made by the service for a given client SHOULD use a callback address passed from that client" anish: there may be > 1 callback addresses from a 'client' Jim Marino: Pradeep on rolll Jim Marino: Plamen on role as well Jim Marino: Meraaj on role as well
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