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Subject: Re: [security-services] Liberty IPR Issues (was: Liberty ID-FF 1.2 submission to the SSTC)
This is is not at all clear to me, since the IPR statement clearly defines "WS-Security" as meaning the contribution ("the WS-Security specification developed by IBM, Microsoft, and VeriSign (each an 'Author')"), not the eventual OASIS TC output, and offers terms for "certain of their respective patent claims that such Author deems necessary to implement required portokions of the WS-Security specification". The offer of terms on the Liberty contributions seems to give at least as much assurance as this does, and quite a bit more than something like the WS-Provisioning contribution currently seems to (I finally found the contribution here; no IPR licensing terms attached: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/provision/200310/msg00001.html). I'll continue to pursue the question of expectations around derivative works with more qualified folks (that is, lawyer-types :-) and share what I find. Eve Michael McIntosh wrote: > > Eve, > > The WSS authors explicitly granted "royalty-free and other reasonable > and non-discriminatory terms and conditions" for IP they owned that they > determined to be required for implementation of WSS. Since OASIS was > standardizing the WSS specification, it was clear that those terms would > apply to the resulting standard produced by OASIS. > > So far as I am aware, the Liberty authors have specified terms for > Liberty implementations. The SS TC is generating a standard for SAML, > portions of which will be derived from the Liberty specification. No > definitive statement has been made by the Liberty authors with respect > to licensing terms for SAML implementations. > > I think these are very different licensing terms. > > Thanks, > Mike -- Eve Maler +1 781 442 3190 Sun Microsystems cell +1 781 354 9441 Web Products, Technologies, and Standards eve.maler @ sun.com
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