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Subject: Re: [security-services] Liberty IPR Issues (was: Liberty ID-FF 1.2 submission to the SSTC)


This is is not at all clear to me, since the IPR statement clearly 
defines "WS-Security" as meaning the contribution ("the WS-Security 
specification developed by IBM, Microsoft, and VeriSign (each an 
'Author')"), not the eventual OASIS TC output, and offers terms for 
"certain of their respective patent claims that such Author deems 
necessary to implement required portokions of the WS-Security 
specification".

The offer of terms on the Liberty contributions seems to give at least 
as much assurance as this does, and quite a bit more than something like 
the WS-Provisioning contribution currently seems to (I finally found the 
contribution here; no IPR licensing terms attached: 
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/provision/200310/msg00001.html).

I'll continue to pursue the question of expectations around derivative 
works with more qualified folks (that is, lawyer-types :-) and share 
what I find.

	Eve

Michael McIntosh wrote:

> 
> Eve,
> 
> The WSS authors explicitly granted "royalty-free and other reasonable 
> and non-discriminatory terms and conditions" for IP they owned that they 
> determined to be required for implementation of WSS. Since OASIS was 
> standardizing the WSS specification, it was clear that those terms would 
> apply to the resulting standard produced by OASIS.
> 
> So far as I am aware, the Liberty authors have specified terms for 
> Liberty implementations. The SS TC is generating a standard for SAML, 
> portions of which will be derived from the Liberty specification. No 
> definitive statement has been made by the Liberty authors with respect 
> to licensing terms for SAML implementations.
> 
> I think these are very different licensing terms.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike
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Sun Microsystems                            cell +1 781 354 9441
Web Products, Technologies, and Standards    eve.maler @ sun.com



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