RE: [soa-rm-ra] Groups - SOA Governance and Management Section (RA Governance Section Structure by RE.doc) uploaded

["Ellinger, Robert S (IS)" <robert.ellinger@ngc.com>]

Yes, we agreed and I'm attempting to make the requested changes...just
having trouble getting it to flow reasonably...at least reasonably for
me.  I will continue my efforts in that direction.

The problem is that I see a close coupling among, framework,
implementation process, operating process, and the products (policies
and contracts); but I'm certainly agreeing the both of these products
are important...I suspect this may be the reason this thing is hard... 

-----Original Message-----
From: Estefan, Jeff A [mailto:jeffrey.a.estefan@jpl.nasa.gov] 
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 12:40 PM
To: soa-rm-ra@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [soa-rm-ra] Groups - SOA Governance and Management Section
(RA Governance Section Structure by RE.doc) uploaded

Bob,

I thought we agreed on the call that we were not in objection of
potentially doing a wholesale move of the Policies & Contracts Model to
the Owning SOAs View.  And Danny who authored that model I believe did
not object.  (Danny, please weight in.)

What we were objecting to was that we feel Policies & Contracts (if
you'll allow me to use P&C for short) are first class concepts that
should not get lost or buried in the discussion of Governance and
Management (G&M).  Yes, these P&Cs are absolutely critical to the
architectural elements of G&M but again, they need to stand on their own
since they transcend all views.

My suggestion is to see if we did indeed do a wholesale move of the P&C
Model to the Owning SOAs View and start with that model, followed by the
Governance Model, followed by the Management Model (or perhaps a
combined Governance and Management Model), then perhaps you could help
with the flow of these models and in turn their readability.

Finally, I should point out that while Gov & Mgmt are certainly related,
we also don't want to lose sight of the notion of services as managed
entities; not just talk about P&C enforcement.

Hope this helps...

 - J

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